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The Sheck
08 Oct 2003, 10:06 PM
"I like everything about his career...except the music." So says my friend Jim when talking about Dave Matthews. I couldn't agree more with him. Likewise, the same could be said for most of the emo/screamo bands today. I like how they've built their careers on endless touring, and I like how most allow downloading, at least of live material (sometimes even on their sites). I just wish the music was better or at least worthy of the things that made them unique. Too often, emo reeks of false emotion, first-day-of-poetry-workshop-at-a-community-college lyrics, and an inability to 'rock'. When will they learn that playing fast and screaming loud doesn't have anything to do with rock and roll when the music isn't there?

Case in point: Thursday. A year and a half ago I caught them on the second stage of some flavor-of-the-month extreme sport/music festival. "What a bunch of corporate wannabe hacks." I thought to myself as I saw a BMX biker wow the crowd with another 360 degree flip. "How unoriginal and uninspiring." When I received a copy of their latest CD 'War All The Time' in the mail, I cursed the heavens for making me review what would undoubetedly be time sucked away from my life, in slow 3-minute increments.

Over the course of the next 40 minutes (the approximate length of the record), I found myself thinking "Well, there's some tuneful moments on here." I played it a second time. I started to notice some not-so-obvious things about the songs, so I played it a third time with those in mind.

By the end of the third play, I had done a complete 180 on this record. Why? Here goes...

-Musically speaking, this is an album heavily influenced by early 90's Alterna-Rock. The verse-chorus-verse formula that Pixies started and Nirvana made famous is evident here. It's just made louder and heavier. The music is still as tuneful as those bands were, it's just that it will take three listens or so to pick them out.

-Lyrically, Thursday does something very unique and original. They have written a record about living in New York during the events of Sept. 11th, but have used the metaphor of failed relationships to mask them. Relationships with friends, significant others, and the Muslim Community. These are the not-so-obvious things I refer to a few paragraphs above. For example on the song 'For The Workforce, Drowning' they describe what it could have been like for people who jumped from the Twin Towers..."Falling from the top floor/your lungs fill like parachutes/windows go rushing by/the people inside/they're dressed for the funeral/in black and white" Also, on 'Division Street' the anti-Arab sentiments present after the attacks make themselves clear. "Lights out on Division St./and all the hate that rises through the cracks in the pavement/as the temperature falls."

The double meaning of the lyrics allow Thursday to bear their souls emotionally w/o making the words seem hokey and contrived. You can't doubt their sincerity on record anymore. 'War All The Time' makes 'The Rising' seem like a N'Sync record.

In every genre, one band surfaces above the dreck to put out a record that is a bold, artistic statement worthy of listen by people of all ages and musical interests. For emo, Thursday is that band. 'War All The Time' is that record. Don't dismiss them as 'corporate wannabe hacks' completely until you gave this album a listen. ; )

nothingiscute
10 Oct 2003, 08:46 AM
War All the Time is an excellent album. Of course, if you want to get technical, so was Full Collapse. These guys have been good for years, and it pains me to think that a bunch of people are missing out on them beacuse they read somewhere that they're "emo" (whatever the hell that means these days), and that "emo" is now trite and finished.

Thursday puts on a hell of a live show, they have a great attitude towards their audience (the lead singer personally urges the crowd to copy and distribute their music in any way they would like), and their music has been consistently meaningful and thought provoking.

I look forward to the time when we as the music buying public can begin to evaluate music by our own tastes, and on a case by case basis, as opposed to automatically passing over bands because of the genre somebody else was comfortable sticking them into.

The Sheck
10 Oct 2003, 12:57 PM
Well, to be honest...I think the great majority of the emo bands don't have very good songs. The whole movement is similar to that of nü-metal. To me, everything is fake, w/o imagination, and just doesn't make me think or dance around. I'll be glad when it's gone.

I wasn't impressed with 'Full Collapse' either. The difference between it and 'War All The Time' is the artistry. I didn't think Thursday had the skills to write a killer album front to back. I'm glad to be proven wrong sometimes. ;)

Of course, I'm pretty damn picky when it comes to music, especially what I buy, so you can take my word for it or not.

LanneyD
06 Nov 2003, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by The Sheck

Of course, I'm pretty damn picky when it comes to music, especially what I buy, so you can take my word for it or not.

Aren't we all? (well, I am, at least) :)

I just bought this CD last weekend. Two bands came to mind when I listened to it: Sparta and ...And you will know us by the trail of dead. And thats a good thing. I haven't listened to it enough to catch the lyrics (I'm more of a vocals are simply an instrument person anyway) but I will be paying closer attention to the lyrics next time.

coreyhemp
06 Nov 2003, 11:22 AM
Sparta and ....AYWKUBTTOD are both very good comparisons to Thursday. I think that War All the Time is more accesible than either of the other band's last releases. I'm not saying it's as good. Especially compared to Source Tags and Codes...that's such a bomb ass cd.

I saw Sparta and Thursday together in Louisville and it was amazing.

Emperor Wog
06 Nov 2003, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by The Sheck
" The verse-chorus-verse formula that Pixies started...

I loves me some Pixies but I don't think they started the verse-chorus-verse thingy... but I know what you mean...

Just wanted to post my 200th post!!

Man, I've been on these boards for almost five years and I'm just now getting my 200th post.

My profile says I've been on since 2001, but I was erased in the great hacker-wipe-out that year. I think I originally started on these boards in early 1999.

Mowie666
09 Nov 2003, 08:08 PM
Just wanted to add a negative reply to all the glow. The singer has very very little vocal range, the rah-rah yellings get old quick, and I find the songs sound very similar to one another. Eek I think it's a great disservice to Trail of Dead to make that comparison(great band!)..

emocow
13 Nov 2003, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by The Sheck
Well, to be honest...I think the great majority of the emo bands don't have very good songs. The whole movement is similar to that of nü-metal. To me, everything is fake, w/o imagination, and just doesn't make me think or dance around. I'll be glad when it's gone.


Emo has been so villified, it's too bad. It's probably true that the majority of emo bands aren't good, but that can be said about most any genre. Most punk bands are horrible, but there are some great ones out there too.

Emo became fake and unimaginative when it got popular enough for unimaginitive musicians to start copying and streamlining it - it happens to everything eventually. Socially conscious punk bands became mall punkers like Good Charlotte and Sum 41, underground rave culture became Paul f$&*ing Oakenfold. But the early emo records I think were great. First Sunny Day Real Estate, old Modest Mouse, even the first couple Get Up Kids records were great. Well that's my opinion anyways. :)

earthcapricorn
18 Nov 2003, 11:19 PM
I can't claim membership to the Thursday fan club. Though I do know some guy with a giant Thursday dove painted across his wall... I'm not a big fan of the lead singers voice and while I can appreciate the metaphoric idea they've brought to their record I just can't get into it. No matter how many times I listen to it. Maybe the image of pierced and whiney wannabe frat boys is too imprinted onto my mind jamming out to some Thursday over a keg for me to fully enjoy them. They're an okay band and Brandston reminds me a lot of them. But it's nothing to get too worked up about. If you're scanning through the radio for the millionth time your ears won't bleed if you decide to stop and listen but there's deffinitely much better things out there.