I must be missing something here...

[monkey neck]

CNN is doing an online poll about Bush's AIDS program. It asks, "Do you agree with his approach to fighting AIDS in Africa?"

39% of those who voted said No. WTF? I know some have a problem with encouraging the use of condoms. Whatever. Is it the proposed $15 billion? I don't get it. I think I'm missing something. I must be.

Either that, or that 39% of people are just hardcore a-hole dems that wouldn't back any Bush plan, even if it was to feed hungry orphans.

Here is the news about it for your reference: http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/04/29/bush.aids/index.html

[butter_of_69]

Originally posted by monkey neck
Either that, or that 39% of people are just hardcore a-hole dems that wouldn't back any Bush plan, even if it was to feed hungry orphans.

No, I think most of them are hardcore a-hole repubs who wouldn't back any plan giving out condoms even if it was to line them up and shield us from nuclear attack.

Nice comment there. Have much of an agenda, do we? :rolleyes:

[IPrayForSound]

I can't tell you why that many people said no, but I doubt 39% of the population disagrees with the proposal. Taking CNN polls as a representation of reality is nearly as smart as smacking your head against the business end of a landmine.

[monkey neck]

Originally posted by butter_of_69


No, I think most of them are hardcore a-hole repubs who wouldn't back any plan giving out condoms even if it was to line them up and shield us from nuclear attack.

Nice comment there. Have much of an agenda, do we? :rolleyes:

Don't get me wrong, butter, I'm just ticked at bipartisan politics. It's the same as when the dems have a good idea and the republicans shoot it down just because a democrat thought it up. See what I'm saying? It's politics as usual, and that frustrates me regardless of what side I'm on.

Taking CNN polls as a representation of reality is nearly as smart as smacking your head against the business end of a landmine.

I agree, but dang we're talking about 72,000 people responding to this thing.

[lawdog]

Now, now fellas, there are just as many a-holes in each party. As for the 39%, I've got one word for you: Catholics. Well, actually, some fundamentalist Christians, too (of the ilk that think Tinky Winky is into Culture Club and leather bars).

[naive a-hole] Don't you people know that sex is dirty and naughty, and that contraception is against God's will? We should be teaching these people abstinence, and converting them to Christianity--that will stop the spread of AIDS. Not passing out devil condoms and encouraging them to continue in their fornication. [/naive a-hole]

[BigSugar]

mmmmmmmmmm......fornication..........

Homer Simpson

[butter_of_69]

I think the split is probably 33/33/33, people who wouldn't back Bush regardless, people who are against condom teaching, and people who are wholly against spending any money overseas for any reason.

And of course, the other 1% are the same folks who voted in Florida a couple years back.

[IPrayForSound]

I agree totally that 72,000 is a lot of people. The problem is that you're only looking at 72,000 people who chose to go to CNN.com and felt strongly enough or bored enough to answer the poll. Perhaps they had overwhelming numbers of psycho-christians or left-wingers. Perhaps the same person went to thousands of computers, voting no over and over. Who knows? Well, I mean...yeah, we can assume the "1 guy" theory is bunk, but I still think the rest of my point is valid.

[butter_of_69]

Originally posted by IPrayForSound
Well, I mean...yeah, we can assume the "1 guy" theory is bunk...

Or can we?

- 1 really bored guy

[dcXhc]

In all likelihood its a combination of those that protest anything Bush does and those that object to distributing condoms and giving money to groups that provide information about abortion.

[monkey neck]

Originally posted by butter_of_69
I think the split is probably 33/33/33, people who wouldn't back Bush regardless, people who are against condom teaching, and people who are wholly against spending any money overseas for any reason.

In all likelihood its a combination of those that protest anything Bush does and those that object to distributing condoms and giving money to groups that provide information about abortion.

True. OK, thanks. You answered my question.

[postfeminist]

In Africa, there is a serious problem with the AIDS epidemic--the myth or rumour that raping babies will cure AIDS. This is not about condoms or abstinence, but rather it is turning into an issue of rape and child abuse.

do a google search on africa aids men rape babies and you can read plenty of articles; i couldn't choose just one to post a link to.

[Danosaur]

Postfeminist is right. It's really bad. What is the Bush Adminstration doing to help that more important issue?

[Duemellon]

This is not about condoms or abstinence, but rather it is turning into an issue of rape and child abuse. And the Chinese are eating aborted late-term fetuses.

any other dehumanizing stories to perpetuate about other races/cultures...

other than the French?

[slow-dog]

Originally posted by IPrayForSound
I agree totally that 72,000 is a lot of people. The problem is that you're only looking at 72,000 people who chose to go to CNN.com and felt strongly enough or bored enough to answer the poll. Perhaps they had overwhelming numbers of psycho-christians or left-wingers. Perhaps the same person went to thousands of computers, voting no over and over. Who knows? Well, I mean...yeah, we can assume the "1 guy" theory is bunk, but I still think the rest of my point is valid.

I know some siites of all political persuasions will have "campaigns" to vote in online polls. sfgate.com always do polls, and it seems to be a battleground for freerepublic.com and indymedia.org on some of the polls. The results of a poll will be tacking strongly to one side (clearly different from how the chronicle's readership could be expected to respond), only to be counter-attacked by the other group and thrown far to the other side.

I think astrology is slightly more scientific than online polling.

[dcXhc]

Originally posted by slow-dog
I think astrology is slightly more scientific than online polling.

Well, don't leave us hanging dude. What do the stars say about Bush's AIDS package?

[slow-dog]

Originally posted by dcXhc


Well, don't leave us hanging dude. What do the stars say about Bush's AIDS package?

Usually I cross-reference my star charts with other means. The tea's steeping, and I just disembowelled a chicken, so I should have an accurate read on this in about an hour.........

[tobedawg]

I actually (gulp) Agree with the Bush Plan to fight AIDS in Africa.

Alot of "American Family" Fundamentalists have spoken out publically against the plan.

And to anybody who actually would oppose helping people who are dying for a deadly epidemic that is killing thousands of people each year, they are a bunch of heartless bastards who place their politics before their compassion.