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jneale
26 Jun 2008, 01:00 PM
Thing twice before you help put this up to vote this fall...


link (http://www.ohioprosperity.com/page.asp?g=OHIO&content=issues_sick_leave&parent=OHIO)

Proposal to require more sick leave benefits could hurt Ohio's economy and make it harder for employers to reward good employees

Ohioans could have the chance to vote on a ballot initiative that would place severe demands on employers by requiring them to offer greater amounts of paid leave in many more situations than they currently do. While Ohio's employers recognize the need to provide employees paid leave in appropriate situations, the proposed changes will likely make it harder for employers to be fair to all employees, and could have a significant negative impact on their ability to financially reward their best workers.


What are some of the negative effects the proposal could have on employers that are struggling to remain competitive and provide job security for their employees?

- Employers with as few as 25 employees will have to set aside financial resources to provide seven paid sick days per year to all full time employees.

- Even part-time employees are guaranteed paid time off for either themselves or their family's health needs.

- The administrative burdens created by the proposal will add additional costs to employers, who will have to spend additional resources to meet these requirements or be penalized with costly fines.

- Employers will have less flexibility in dealing with how they give employees time off. Many employees who enjoy the benefits of Paid Time Off or no-fault attendance policies would be in danger of losing those options.

- Employers would not be able to negatively evaluate, discipline or refrain from promoting individuals due to absenteeism associated with paid sick leave, creating an uneven playing field for how employers can reward their best employees.

- The proposal allows individuals to 'carry over' as much sick leave as they wish each year, allowing those who wish to take long paid absences down the road no financial incentive to return to work as early as possible.

- A new avenue of claims by disgruntled employees will mean that employers will be forced to spend more financial resources on legal fees.

- Employers’ ability to evaluate medical situations will be hampered, and employers could be required to pay for leave and then wait for 30 days for medical certification information before disciplining employees who abuse the system.



How can placing more requirements on employers and employees regarding sick leave affect Ohio’s economy overall?

- Ohio would be the only state with this law. Economic experts say this could place the state at a competitive disadvantage when businesses are looking to place new facilities or expand their operations, providing another obstacle to new jobs.

- Many employers worry that having to cater to those who abuse sick leave policies will hurt the morale of their best employees, ultimately leading to loss in productivity and threatening their ability to compete and survive.

- Employers that offer generous sick leave packages say that they can afford to do so only because they have the freedom to stop employee abuse, and that the proposal takes away their ability to do so.

More information will be available on the Ohio Healthy Families Act as the proposal is considered for the November 2008 ballot. Check back for more information about how this proposal could impact your employer and their ability to be flexible and fair to all employees.

Here is the other side:

sick days Ohio (http://www.sickdaysohio.org/)

berserkr1979
26 Jun 2008, 01:46 PM
I'm kinda glad my company only has one employee...me. :)

classicgrrl
26 Jun 2008, 08:04 PM
I get 3 sick days. If we have the flu for four days with a fever of 102 they place us on short term disabilty and we only receive 50% of our pay.

2 years ago in the winter we had a monumental amound of sick employees in the building.
which in turn made the students sick.
which in turn cause absenses to sky rocket.
which in turn cause some students to drop either from classes or whole programs.
which cause attrition to increase.
which caused sick employees to get yelled out and written up for decreased retention.

and then the dean left (9 in 12 years) and we started the whole fucking thing all over again.

this is how it works in the real world.

hey I just a GREAT idea! why don't we do away with sick and vacation time and have something called PTO - Paid Time Off. you take it when you need it regardless of sickness or vacation or doc appointments or sick kids.

damn I should market this, I'll make a mint!
:rolleyes:

slmpickens
27 Jun 2008, 07:46 AM
hey I just a GREAT idea! why don't we do away with sick and vacation time and have something called PTO - Paid Time Off. you take it when you need it regardless of sickness or vacation or doc appointments or sick kids.

i get 10 freaking sick days to use. i only really need maybe 2 or 3. so naturally, i end up calling in sick when i'm not a few times. i would love it if i just had 10 extra days rolled into PTO. the folks i know who have PTO love it and it just makes so much sense. can we please get mandatory PTO for all companies on the ballot instead?

pearl5001
27 Jun 2008, 11:55 PM
Wow, 3 days of sick, CG? That's rough! I can understand someone wanting to pass laws to ensure people can take care of themselves.

I have 10 days of sick time each year, which if not used, rolls into a STD bank. I currently have about 20 days in STD, which would be at 66% pay if used. I also get 9 holidays and have put in enough time to get 20 days of vacation per year. I couldn't imagine not being able to stay home sick when necessary.

DaHood
28 Jun 2008, 02:34 AM
I don't get sick days. If I am sick I am required to have a doctor's excuse which costs me a minimum of $80 for a doctor's visit and if I am to be paid it comes out of my vacation time. Otherwise, no pay but the days off still come from my vacation time. However, I can get a disability leave but that is quite hard to obtain. It's only for very serious conditions and it has to be approved.

jneale
14 Jul 2008, 08:45 AM
Stop the Mandates (http://www.ohiobusinessvotes.org/Mandates08/Home.htm)

jneale
04 Sep 2008, 06:11 PM
At 9:15am this morning the SEIU announced they would deliver a formal request to Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner today to remove Issue 4 from the November ballot. This decision was made after it became clear that a harsh ballot campaign would be on the horizon coupled with Senator Barack Obama's recent support for a federal paid sick day bill which Governor Strickland and Sen. Sherrod Brown have pledged to help support.

While this is a huge win for HR Professionals, Ohio businesses, and our economy it does not necessarily mean the issue is dead, rather it will shift to a larger battleground on a federal level. Ohio SHRM will continue to monitor activity on this issue throughout the year.