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Lonestar
03 Jun 2008, 01:57 PM
Who will Obama's vice president be?
the_birds
03 Jun 2008, 02:02 PM
At this point, he just has to pick Hillary.
I don't see how he has a choice.
rocketman70
03 Jun 2008, 02:06 PM
At this point, he just has to pick Hillary.
I don't see how he has a choice.
After the comments she made in South Dakota last week-I wouldn't. There has to be a lot of trust there-and I just don't see that b/t her and Obama.
She adds nothing to the ticket.
I'd go with Richardson, Jim Webb or perhaps Ted Strickland.
the_birds
03 Jun 2008, 02:11 PM
She adds nothing to the ticket.
I have more friends from Chicago that bust out the hate for Hillary.
And lots Hillary's supporters have a lot of hate for Obama.
The only sensible thing to do is unite the ticket and unite the party for victory. Don't like it, too bad. Obama's not going to win without a significant number of Hillary's supporters jumping onto the bandwagon.
Just like your Mama said, sometimes you got to hold your nose and take the medicine. :D
Duemellon
03 Jun 2008, 02:12 PM
If Hillary becomes it, I'll be stunned. She might get a cabinet position, but VP? I doubt it.
Fourthisto
03 Jun 2008, 02:14 PM
After the comments she made in South Dakota last week-I wouldn't. Yeah, I wouldn't either.
I don't know too much about Richardson, but Webb seems to be a nice match-up. A well respected guy with millitary cred and a well thought out speaker (maybe only outmatched by Obama?).... seems like a good fit.
But I'd go with Dirk Benedict.... that would be an impossible-to-defeat alliance.
akip
03 Jun 2008, 02:17 PM
i think he needs someone with exec experience, not another senator. a gov of a swing state---not that i know much about them, but i'd take a stab at guessing strickland or the PA man. somebody who speaks that alien swing voter language.
but i also think, for a senator, webb is a good pick. so maybe him.
berzerker
03 Jun 2008, 02:18 PM
He should pick Bill Clinton...
Or maybe Tila Tequila. If all of her MySpace friends vote for her/Obama? No contest...
slmpickens
03 Jun 2008, 02:32 PM
i don't know about strickland. yeah, he makes sense b/c he's the governor of an important swing state, but he's also a superdelegate that supports hillary - just today he reiterated his support of hillary.
and can bill clinton be VP? i was talking with a friend about this (we were imagining the clinton/clinton ticket) and we couldn't decide if he would be allowed to be VP. if hillary died, he couldn't be prez, so would that stop him from being VP, or would the presidency go to the next in line while he stayed VP? or can he not be prez in the first place?
berzerker
03 Jun 2008, 02:38 PM
i don't know about strickland. yeah, he makes sense b/c he's the governor of an important swing state, but he's also a superdelegate that supports hillary - just today he reiterated his support of hillary.
and can bill clinton be VP? i was talking with a friend about this (we were imagining the clinton/clinton ticket) and we couldn't decide if he would be allowed to be VP. if hillary died, he couldn't be prez, so would that stop him from being VP, or would the presidency go to the next in line while he stayed VP? or can he not be prez in the first place?
I thought that someone couldn't be elected President 3 times...
oops, the Twelfth seems to nullify that one.
silentpaul
03 Jun 2008, 02:39 PM
He should stay away from anyone whose last name sounds anything like Bin Laden. This is a joke, but kinda serious, too. There are too many not-so-brilliant individuals who would vote against him for just such a stupid reason.
akip makes a good point about finding someone with executive experience.
Lonestar
03 Jun 2008, 02:50 PM
I'm going with Richardson because he's the biggest advocate of green energy..
the_birds
03 Jun 2008, 02:54 PM
breaking news...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
ICONOCLAST420
03 Jun 2008, 03:01 PM
The only sensible thing to do is unite the ticket and unite the party for victory. Don't like it, too bad. Obama's not going to win without a significant number of Hillary's supporters jumping onto the bandwagon.
Just like your Mama said, sometimes you got to hold your nose and take the medicine. :D
Yikes! 1980 all over again. I can remember a lot of conservatives felt betrayed when Reagan chose Bush as a running mate.
I'm going with Richardson because he's the biggest advocate of green energy..
I'm hoping for Richardson myself.
classicgrrl
03 Jun 2008, 03:08 PM
i don't know about strickland. yeah, he makes sense b/c he's the governor of an important swing state, but he's also a superdelegate that supports hillary - just today he reiterated his support of hillary.
which is why he would be a good choice. swing state AND staunch Clinton supporter.
he has to be very careful whom he chooses. it has to be someone he can trust, someone who is very loyal to him or will be, and someone who will bring the idiots on board (meaning the dumbasses who won't vote for him because he is black). a big swing state and some strong Clinton backers would certainly help.
strickland might be a viable alternative actually.
drougan
03 Jun 2008, 03:16 PM
i don't know about strickland. yeah, he makes sense b/c he's the governor of an important swing state, but he's also a superdelegate that supports hillary - just today he reiterated his support of hillary.
and can bill clinton be VP? i was talking with a friend about this (we were imagining the clinton/clinton ticket) and we couldn't decide if he would be allowed to be VP. if hillary died, he couldn't be prez, so would that stop him from being VP, or would the presidency go to the next in line while he stayed VP? or can he not be prez in the first place?
In order to be a VP you have to be constitutionally elligible to be POTUS, Bill doesn't qualifiy. One individual is allowed a maximum of 10 years and 2 elections into the office (VP assuming POTUS with less than 2 years before the term ends, then two elections and subsequent 4 yr terms) but the 2 elections/terms qualifies. The only way Bill could be a VP is if he is approved with less than two years in a sitting presidents term, perhaps. With no ability to run again.
Cyclone
03 Jun 2008, 03:21 PM
I'm not 100% but I'm pretty sure Edwards stated right after he dropped out of the race this year that he wouldn't be a veep.
epeolatry
03 Jun 2008, 03:22 PM
After the comments she made in South Dakota last week-I wouldn't. There has to be a lot of trust there-and I just don't see that b/t her and Obama.
She adds nothing to the ticket.
I'd go with Richardson, Jim Webb or perhaps Ted Strickland.
I'd definitely be happy w/ Richardson or Strickland.
I'm going with Richardson because he's the biggest advocate of green energy..
Richardson also brings the Hispanic vote...
epeolatry
03 Jun 2008, 03:38 PM
i agree about hillary. after some of the crap she's pulled in the delegate fight, i wouldn't trust her as the veep. she'd be skulking outside the oval office a bit too much, me thinks. :D
joebob
03 Jun 2008, 03:44 PM
To answer the thread's question: Wes Clark.
i don't know about strickland. yeah, he makes sense b/c he's the governor of an important swing state, but he's also a superdelegate that supports hillary - just today he reiterated his support of hillary.
Strickland has stated outright that he doesn't want to be Veep.
He should pick Bill Clinton...
and can bill clinton be VP?
I believe I was in a ConLaw class where we analyzed the scenario of Bill being VP for someone. If memory serves, it would be a precedent. As it stands, I don't believe the Constitution can be interpreted to bar that from occurring. I'll have to dig up what Drougan mentioned though...
slmpickens
03 Jun 2008, 04:00 PM
I believe I was in a ConLaw class where we analyzed the scenario of Bill being VP for someone. If memory serves, it would be a precedent. As it stands, I don't believe the Constitution can be interpreted to bar that from occurring. I'll have to dig up what Drougan mentioned though...
i did some googleing, and you're right, it would be a precedent. the way i read the amendments in question lead me to believe that he can't be VP. if you take a very literal interpretation of the 22nd amendment, a person is only limited to being elected twice (as berzerker mentioned). but i think the supreme court would look more towards the spirit of the amendments and rule that a person can only serve 2 terms, therefore making bill ineligible to be VP.
ThomasC
03 Jun 2008, 04:00 PM
I believe I was in a ConLaw class where we analyzed the scenario of Bill being VP for someone. If memory serves, it would be a precedent. As it stands, I don't believe the Constitution can be interpreted to bar that from occurring. I'll have to dig up what Drougan mentioned though...
Here's the relevant clip from the 12th Amendment: "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitutio n
He can't be elected to be President again, so he can't be Veep.
akip
03 Jun 2008, 04:06 PM
bill as VP, ha! obama would end up murdering him in his sleep.
1979
03 Jun 2008, 04:06 PM
Here's the relevant clip from the 12th Amendment: "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitutio n
He can't be elected to be President again, so he can't be Veep.
I don't know if he is "constitutionally ineligible to the office of President" however. He can't be elected again, but does that make him ineligible?
Lonestar
03 Jun 2008, 04:14 PM
Can Gore be VP again?
drougan
03 Jun 2008, 04:25 PM
Can Gore be VP again?
Totally. He has never been a president. The ambiguity of the VPs role in the executive branch is half the reason Cheney has gotten away with the stuff he has.
joebob
03 Jun 2008, 04:30 PM
I don't know if he is "constitutionally ineligible to the office of President" however. He can't be elected again, but does that make him ineligible?
I think it's safe to assume that the "eligibility" spoken of in the Constitution pertains to an individual's status as a citizen far, far more than as a potential ex-President. The Constitution allowed for (indeed welcomed, if you believe in George Washington's advice) precedents. That's where the argument would be if tossed into the courts, obviously.
Can Gore be VP again?
Yes. He has a better chance of being dubbed than Bubba, anyway. :)
I actually wonder if Ken Rudin (NPR's "Political Junkie") has addressed this topic at all...?
ICONOCLAST420
03 Jun 2008, 04:39 PM
I also cannot understand the logic at all in bringing Hillary along as VP. He'll be looking over his shoulder the whole time at the Clintons. No thanks.
i agree about hillary. after some of the crap she's pulled in the delegate fight, i wouldn't trust her as the veep. she'd be skulking outside the oval office a bit too much, me thinks. :D
The Hildebeast is supposedly going to offer to be Obama's running mate tonight, if he is smart he will decline because she is a pushy power hungry bitch who will try to take over. I base that on the fact that during the Clinton years of the 90s she saw herself as more of a co-president than a first lady and even tried to run Al Gore out of his office, and was once quoted as saying "We are the president now."
If it wasn't true then this joke would not be funny.
Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and Al Gore were in an airplane that crashed. They're up in heaven, and God's sitting on the great white throne. God addresses Al Gore first. "Al, what do you believe in"?
Al Gore replies, "Well, I believe that the internal combustion engine is evil and that we need to save the world from CFC's and that if any more freon is used, the whole earth will become a greenhouse and we'll all die."
God thinks for a second and says, "Okay, I can live with that, come and sit at my left."
God then addresses Bill Clinton. "Bill, what do you believe in"?
Bill replies, "Well, I believe in power to the people. I think people should be able to make their own choices about things and that no one should ever be able to tell someone else what to do. I also believe in feeling people's pain."
God thinks for a second and says, "Okay, that sounds good. Come and sit at my right."
God then addresses Hillary Clinton. "Hillary, what do you believe in?"
Hillary says, "I believe you're in my seat."
REMgirl
03 Jun 2008, 04:46 PM
I'd like to see Bill Richardson as VP. I've heard him speak for the Party and he's good. He would also, as mentioned already, be a good draw for the Hispanic vote.
Jim Webb probably isn't a good choice. While he's a vet, he also has a history of anti-feminism, and if women can't get Hillary, they are really not going to tolerate a guy who spoke out against women being in the military. He won his seat against the "macaca" candidate, so I'm not sure how much wide support he would actually draw in the big race.
the_birds
03 Jun 2008, 05:10 PM
Slam Hillary all you want, but Obama needs her supporters.
That's all I'm saying. He can't win without them.
Which means she'll have a considerable role in his Presidency, like it or not. If she's not the VP, she's going to have a prominent cabinet position, Secretary of State, or Defense or something powerful and influential. If its a cabinet position, I'll put my money on Secretary of Defense. Its got to be something that's never been done by a woman in the US before. She's not going away.
Just be ready for it, because she's going to be a big part. Too much of this race is riding on it.
I'm an Osama ;) supporter, but the handwriting's on the wall, kids.
ThomasC
03 Jun 2008, 06:00 PM
Which means she'll have a considerable role in his Presidency, like it or not. If she's not the VP, she's going to have a prominent cabinet position, Secretary of State, or Defense or something powerful and influential. If its a cabinet position, I'll put my money on Secretary of Defense. Its got to be something that's never been done by a woman in the US before. She's not going away.
I hope it's State rather than Defense.
frizgolf
03 Jun 2008, 06:07 PM
Who will Obama's vice president be?
Has anyone answered: no one?
If he's not elected, that would be the correct answer. :p
The Ugly Thief
03 Jun 2008, 06:12 PM
am i really the first person to pick Biden ?!?!
anyway.... i just don't think he would be comfortable w/ Hillary. And I don't think it's just because of some difference in their views, but also because he would feel awkward having Bill's presence that close.
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rocketman70
03 Jun 2008, 06:17 PM
Richardson. Edwards. Webb. Whatever.
To be honest, I'm voting for my man Barack. Not for the Veep.
But if you're going to use the 'experience' and the 'swing state' argument. Then I'd go with Richardson.
Who will Obama's vice president be?
Has anyone answered: no one?
If he's not elected, that would be the correct answer. :p
Wrong.....so very wrong.
frizgolf
03 Jun 2008, 06:33 PM
Wrong.....so very wrong.
Heh. I thought that might stir the pot. :D
rocketman70
03 Jun 2008, 06:45 PM
Heh. I thought that might stir the pot. :D
Yeah, I know your game. Smartass. :p
Duemellon
03 Jun 2008, 07:42 PM
I'd be worried about the campaign if he got Clinton as VP. She showed that her campaign would do some unsavory things which would reflect poorly on Obama. Now, one could say he could VP-ize her & let her take all the blame for dirty politics, but that would show he was willing to let someone else do his dirty work OR it would show he can't control his staff/support. Either would be detrimental.
It would be sufficient if Clinton simply started campaigning hard for Obama's cause. Thumping the podium in his name & really conceding to the party. If she appears to sulk or drag her feet then her supporters (those riding the fence) would get the impression the division is too great to attempt to bridge.
frizgolf
03 Jun 2008, 08:20 PM
I think Lieberman deserves another shot. Or Tila Tequila, whoever he is.
http://www.evilbeetgossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/tila_t.jpg
joebob
03 Jun 2008, 08:39 PM
Another Bob Dylan quote: Money don't talk, it screams bloody murder.
That's a line from It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding): "Money doesn't talk, it swears."
Others from the same song (one of my 10 favorite Dylan tunes, period) pertinent to modern politics:
"As some warn victory, some downfall - Private reasons great or small can be seen in the eyes of those that call to make all that should be killed to crawl while others say don't hate nothing at all except hatred."
"It's easy to see without looking too far, not much is really sacred."
"Even the president of the United States sometimes must have to stand naked."
"While some on principles baptized
To strict party platform ties
Social clubs in drag disguise
Outsiders they can freely criticize
Tell nothing except who to idolize
And then say God bless him."
"If my thought-dreams could be seen, they'd probably put my head in a guillotine."
Measure Up!
03 Jun 2008, 08:46 PM
I really hope it's Kathleen Sebelius, current Gov. of Kansas and daughter of former Ohio Gov. John Gilligan.
My guess is that it will not be Hillary... but that it will be someone that was a fairly prominent supporter/super delegate of hers. I'd say Evan Bayh from IN, but 2 senators is less likely. A governor like Strickland or Rendell.
Or we could flip this all around and go the unity ticket route. He could have Bloomberg or Republican Chuck Hagel who's been spending lots of time bashing on the war policies of Bush/Mcain.
Most people say they don't want the job... until it's offered to them. How's the saying go, it's the job that nobody wants to have offered to them and nobody can turn down.
juggles
03 Jun 2008, 11:30 PM
Hillary the VP on inauguration day:
Barack, I'm so happy to be here with you, about to be inaugurated as president of the United States -- you, that is, you're about to be inaugurated as president. Not me, yet. I suppose the way I said that might have been confusing.
Do you hear them, Barack? My, I mean our supporters are cheering for us on this historic day. We should go out on the balcony to wave to them. No, Barack, you go first. After all, you're going to be president in just a few minutes. Look how happy they are to see you Barack! Step out on the balcony, all the way out to the railing and wave to them. Wave to them Barack, use both hands. Don't worry, I'll support you with my palms planted firmly in the center of your back. That's it, Barack, keep waving. Look down there below us at those fine citizens who support me--you--us! Lean over the railing to wave to them. Further, Barack! Further ---
Oh no! Barack, did you see the railing give way as though someone had loosened the bolts! Hang on Barack! Hang on! Here -- grab the sole of my shoe with the top of your hand! Hang on Barack! Hang on! Nooooooooo(yes!) . . .
I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States . . .
DaHood
03 Jun 2008, 11:34 PM
OMG that's precious. :D
Mantra
03 Jun 2008, 11:40 PM
That's a line from It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding): "Money doesn't talk, it swears."
Others from the same song (one of my 10 favorite Dylan tunes, period) pertinent to modern politics:
"As some warn victory, some downfall - Private reasons great or small can be seen in the eyes of those that call to make all that should be killed to crawl while others say don't hate nothing at all except hatred."
"It's easy to see without looking too far, not much is really sacred."
"Even the president of the United States sometimes must have to stand naked."
"While some on principles baptized
To strict party platform ties
Social clubs in drag disguise
Outsiders they can freely criticize
Tell nothing except who to idolize
And then say God bless him."
"If my thought-dreams could be seen, they'd probably put my head in a guillotine."
Very appropriate Dylan lyric quotes... Oh yes, money has been swearing for quite some time in this country, better words never stated.
akip
04 Jun 2008, 08:08 AM
my friend's daughter says that any man who always wears a blue tie is the Antichrist.
so maybe his running mate will be a rottweiler.
Docta
04 Jun 2008, 08:39 AM
I really hope it's Kathleen Sebelius, current Gov. of Kansas and daughter of former Ohio Gov. John Gilligan.
this is the one!
shivvy
04 Jun 2008, 08:43 AM
I would love it to be John Edwards, but I guess that is out. Richardson would be good too.
I just heard somebody on CNN say that if Obama picks Hillary as his VP that "he better get a food tester."
OUCH!
Docta
04 Jun 2008, 09:04 AM
edwards will be attorney general like his hero robert kennedy
sebelius incidentally went to summit for high school here in cincinnati. a few years back they invited her to give a commencement speech then uninvited her because of her stance on abortion, shameful.
she is immensely popular democratic governor in a predominantly republican state. her lieutenant governor was a republican before crossing over to become a democrat just before being announced as sebelius's running mate.
The Ugly Thief
04 Jun 2008, 11:56 AM
he's got the candidacy. Now it's time to get busy...
http://www.stentorian.com/MoveOn/ObamaSharpton.jpg
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epeolatry
04 Jun 2008, 12:29 PM
the food tester thing is exactly what i was thinking.
i really hope he doesn't choose her. six months ago i was hoping for a "dream ticket" but now i'm just so pissed about the things she/bill have done/said.
i know i'm always the one like "zomg what about the ladies!?!" but really-- can any of you think of some female senators/congresswomen/governors who might fit the bill?
*cough* (http://www.governor.ks.gov/about/bio.htm)
EDITED TO ADD: duh, i missed Measure Up!'s statement above. :)
DaHood
04 Jun 2008, 12:35 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y120/daleam/ObamaSharpton.jpg
That is truly tasteless, and frightening.
Unrequited
04 Jun 2008, 12:50 PM
It's a lose-lose situation for Obama when it comes to Clinton. If he picks Hillary, she's an albatross around his neck, bringing all the Clinton baggage (including Bubba) with her. If he doesn't pick her, all her supporters will scream bloody murder and not support him. She's essentially blackmailing him. Pick me as your VP or else.
It's all about her. She doesn't give a fuck about the Democratic party or this country. She's the megalomaniac's megalomaniac, a cancer.
frizgolf
04 Jun 2008, 01:34 PM
That is truly tasteless, and frightening.
Must be the WebSense.
I get a white dot.
epeolatry
04 Jun 2008, 01:38 PM
It's a lose-lose situation for Obama when it comes to Clinton. If he picks Hillary, she's an albatross around his neck, bringing all the Clinton baggage (including Bubba) with her. If he doesn't pick her, all her supporters will scream bloody murder and not support him. She's essentially blackmailing him. Pick me as your VP or else.
It's all about her. She doesn't give a fuck about the Democratic party or this country. She's the megalomaniac's megalomaniac, a cancer.
agreed.........
The Ugly Thief
04 Jun 2008, 01:47 PM
She's essentially blackmailing him. Pick me as your VP or else.
yep. Basically, she's playing her hand for everything it's worth. It's the only reason she hasn't officially accepted him as the winner. Right now she is just kinda trying to stay afloat for the next couple of days, hoping that he'll offer her the job while she has an audience.
It's all about her. She doesn't give a fuck about the Democratic party or this country.
yep again. This presidential opportunity was the whole reason she didn't get a divorce 10 years ago. In her eyes she's given up 10yrs of her private life just for this opportunity - and that's why she has always had that "me me me" type of undertone to her.
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DaHood
04 Jun 2008, 02:11 PM
Must be the WebSense.
I get a white dot.I told you it's tasteless. :cool:
But if you look back at my quote you might be able to see it now.
Lonestar
04 Jun 2008, 02:29 PM
My observation is Hillary clearly wants to be on the ticket as VP, but her strategy is what is mind boggling. It appears she's keeping herself in the spotlight to use her follows as leverage to convince Barack she is the one. But everyday she "pretends" the race is not over she pisses off more people, therefor losing popularity from people like me who still believes she is a good democrat. I think her strategy has worked so some extent and she has better then a 50% chance of be vp candidate.
justa bill
04 Jun 2008, 02:42 PM
Ted Strickland.
Strickland was a vocal Billary supporter.... probably wont be him. the Wisconsin gov maybe.
Frost
04 Jun 2008, 05:48 PM
It's all about her. She doesn't give a fuck about the Democratic party or this country. She's the megalomaniac's megalomaniac, a cancer.
MegloMANIac, MAAANiac on the floor. And she's dancin like she's never danced befo- ore.
BigSugar
05 Jun 2008, 10:09 AM
white. southern. male.
it will be a name not currently on our radar.
it will not be Richardson.
it will not be Edwards.
it will most certainly not be Hillary.
My best guess: Tim Kaine from VA. Bredesen from TN. or Easley from NC.
if he chooses to appease the female/Hillary voters, he could go off the board for Gov. Sebelius of Kansas. Solid midwestern/plains state (read: red state) choice. But i don't think the Democratic National Committee is brave enough to put a black man up for president and pair him with a semi-liberal white woman.
He could go Strickland, but that would be solely to try and lock up Ohio from going red again. but if they calculate that Ohio puts them over the top, they would be smart to try this.
it all comes down to where do they think they need to strengthen their chances at getting the most electoral votes. They will be very weak in the south and may abandon hope of winning any in that swath of red states. if so, then look for Strickland. If they want to put up a fight and try and win some of those southern states this time around, look for a white southern male governor.
Hogarth
05 Jun 2008, 01:01 PM
Smart post Sug.
Hillary will not be the Veep. She'll stay in the Senate where she can be her own boss. I agree with Sug's sugetions.
akip
05 Jun 2008, 01:11 PM
obama's mantra is going to have to be ohio-florida-michigan (but forget hillary, no way). i think he's going to make a very smart calculation of who can help him most against mccain in those three states.
classicgrrl
05 Jun 2008, 02:52 PM
Strickland was a vocal Billary supporter.... probably wont be him. the Wisconsin gov maybe.
From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli and NBC's Domenico Montanaro
Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland, one of the most ardent Hillary Clinton backers, has now thrown his support to Barack Obama.
Strickland has been mentioned as a potential vice president for Obama, as he is the governor of what has been a critical battleground state.
Strickland, notably, stood behind Clinton (on cam) as she famously shouted, "Shame on you, Barack Obama!" as she held a flier his campaign was circulating on her position on NAFTA just before the March 4th Ohio and Texas contests.
The NBC NEWS Delegate Counts:
PLEDGED: Obama 1,744 to 1,641
SUPERS: Obama 406.5 to 291
EDWARDS PL.: Obama 21 to 0
OVERALL: Obama 2,171.5 to 1,932
##
Subject: STATEMENT: Governor Strickland Endorses Barack Obama
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
June 5, 2008
Governor Ted Strickland issued the following statement this afternoon:
"Today, I announce my wholehearted and enthusiastic support for Barack Obama for President of the United States.
Earlier today I talked with Sen. Hillary Clinton. I thanked her for her friendship and the strong effort she put forth in this historic campaign. I pledged to work with her to unify the party and to make sure that Barack Obama wins the presidency.
Ohioans have suffered as a result of the failed policies of the Bush Administration, including job loss as a result of rising fuel prices. Ohioans desperately want real, meaningful change. And I believe Barack Obama will bring that change."
juggles
05 Jun 2008, 03:14 PM
If I were Obama, I would not make Hillary my VP. Instead, I would make her ambassador to some tiny, remote island country somewhere very cold and way way way far away.
akip
05 Jun 2008, 03:16 PM
If I were Obama, I would not make Hillary my VP. Instead, I would make her ambassador to some tiny, remote island country somewhere very cold and way way way far away.
no that's for bill. send him somewhere where no one speaks english.
the_birds
05 Jun 2008, 03:18 PM
no that's for bill. send him somewhere where no one knows who's male or female
Fixed that for you...
epeolatry
05 Jun 2008, 04:00 PM
i <3 ted strickland and have for years... i never dreamed that i'd help elect a democrat to governor in ohio and then move to a mostly-blue state that has a republican governor!! so strange...
BigSugar
05 Jun 2008, 04:18 PM
no that's for bill. send him somewhere where no one speaks english.
great. sick Bill on a bunch of half naked island girls. good plan. within 2 years we'd have hundreds of half Balinese and half Arkansas redneck babies running around doing the "thumbs up" routine.
Docta
05 Jun 2008, 05:23 PM
i love strickland too, but he's pretty light in the charisma department. this would be even more striking against obama's magnatism.
and while i like sebelius better, webb would be outstanding and it looks like he's working it hard already for our candidate (http://http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/05/webbs-audition-blasts-mcc_n_105382.html (linky))
Docta
05 Jun 2008, 05:30 PM
what? no thread for mccain's choice? i think romney is the smart choice for him (though many who will not vote for a black man may also not vote for a morman). he compliments mccain pretty well.
bobby jindal, politically, i think would be a terrible match for mccain. anything that mccain might throw out about obama could also be said about jindal (too young, not enough experience). how could mccain say that obama is not ready but a younger jindal is? and worse than romney, anyone not voting for obama based on race/name would have similar thoughts about a first generation indian-american.
i love huckabee as a candidate/person, but his policies were scary with a capital scary. on a ticket though where he'd just be pimping mccain's a bit more sane policies would let his personality shine through pretty well.
BigSugar
06 Jun 2008, 09:58 AM
what? no thread for mccain's choice? i think romney is the smart choice for him (though many who will not vote for a black man may also not vote for a morman). he compliments mccain pretty well.
bobby jindal, politically, i think would be a terrible match for mccain. anything that mccain might throw out about obama could also be said about jindal (too young, not enough experience). how could mccain say that obama is not ready but a younger jindal is? and worse than romney, anyone not voting for obama based on race/name would have similar thoughts about a first generation indian-american.
i love huckabee as a candidate/person, but his policies were scary with a capital scary. on a ticket though where he'd just be pimping mccain's a bit more sane policies would let his personality shine through pretty well.
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Open up your heart and let me in wontcha please
Got no money but everybody knows
I love you Condi and I'll never let you go
Sweet and dandy pretty as can be
You be the flower and I'll be the bumble bee
Oh she loves me oops she loves me not
People say you're cold but I think you're hot
Oh, Condi, Condi
Oh, Condi, Condi
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Shake your body now let me see you go
One time for me Oh Condi I love you so
Skank for me Condi show me what you got
They say you're too uptight I say you're not
Dance around me spinnin' like a top
Oh Condi Condi Condi don't ever stop
Oh Condi Condi Can't you hear me call
I'm standin' in the street outside your garden wall
Pocketful of money belly full of wine
Condi in my heart and romance on my mind
Listen to me Condi don't be afraid
I come here tonight to chase your blues away
I'll never hurt you I'll treat you right
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Bet you never had another lover like me
the happy prole
07 Jun 2008, 04:54 PM
I would guess if Obama wants to pick someone from Virginia, he would choose Mark Warner. Though not sure Warner wants it.
Tim Kaine's alright, but people in Virginia aren't really crazy-fired up about him. He's not exactly Mr. Dynamic. He's also not that effective. I mean, he's okay and all, but he's not going to be a boon on the campaign trail. If you just want a guy who'll act all VP-ish and stay out of the limelight, he'll be decent.
Honestly, Hillary Clinton would be a pretty good running mate. Probably not such an asset in the election, but she'd be an active VP for sure. She'd do all the dirty inside political stuff so Obama can keep his hands clean. I imagine they'd be very effective at getting stuff done. Of course, you might not *like* what they get done if you're conservative, I'm just saying...
Fourthisto
10 Jun 2008, 07:57 AM
I had a dream last night..... his VP choice was announced.
It was John McCain.
A truly unified card stifles all arguments from within and an united government cuts through red tape to work together and face the key issues around us.
Then from this election on, all candidates and running mates are from mixed parties. Because sometimes the best course of action doesn't stick to either party's lines. No one is "right" all the time, the different perspectives find different solutions. Together the bickering ends and the country benefits from it.
We the People indeed.
Breeze
10 Jun 2008, 08:51 AM
I had a dream last night..... his VP choice was announced.
It was John McCain.
Shouldn't you have announced this from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial?
Fourthisto
10 Jun 2008, 08:59 AM
Shouldn't you have announced this from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial?Damn, you're right. Can you call the major newscenters and tell them I'll be there in about 12 hours?
Breeze
10 Jun 2008, 09:06 AM
Damn, you're right. Can you call the major newscenters and tell them I'll be there in about 12 hours?
Like I'd need to call. They track your every move.
ajax
13 Jun 2008, 11:01 PM
To answer the thread's question: Wes Clark.
I think you win.
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