Obamisms

[Tweak Tweak]

Obama is turning out to be every bit the gaffe-master that the current C-in-C has been.

Besides believing the USA has 57 states, just this weekend, he saw dead people:

On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today -- our sense of patriotism is particularly strong.

And recently:

He repeatedly used the term “Sunshine” as a place name rather than “Sunrise,” the city where the arena is located, including, “How’s it going Sunshine? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you everybody. It’s good to be in Sunshine.”


And last week:

On Thursday Obama told the Orlando Sentinel that he would meet with Chavez and “one of the obvious high priorities in my talks with President Hugo Chavez would be the fermentation of anti-American sentiment in Latin America, his support of FARC in Colombia and other issues he would want to talk about.”

Where is the riotously funny Slate site for this oaf?

[Duemellon]

Where is the riotously funny Slate site for this oaf?Well, when listening to the audio on the 1st one I'm sure it plays differently than it's written.

If that doesn't satisfy, realize even if he's saying something wrong he at least sounds intelligent. Unlike Bush who would sound stupid reading an encyclopedia aloud.

[Hogarth]

The difference is when Obama goofs, it's the exception. When the Shrub goofs, it's because he is a goof. A goof with his hand on the button.:eek:

[Fourthisto]

Besides believing the USA has 57 states

Permanently inhabited U.S. non-state jurisdictions:

United States Virgin Islands
Guam
the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands
American Samoa

Former United States Trust Territories:

Palau
the Federated States of Micronesia
the Marshall Islands

Yeah, if you count Puerto Rico, its 58! He was WAY off! What a dummy! LOLMFAB

[the-dude]

Oh my god you are right! Politicians aren't perfect! :rolleyes:

[Tweak Tweak]

The difference is when Obama goofs, it's the exception. When the Shrub goofs, it's because he is a goof. A goof with his hand on the button.:eek:

It's the exception five times in two weeks? He's clearly not so hot at speaking when he goes off script.

[Tweak Tweak]

Permanently inhabited U.S. non-state jurisdictions:

United States Virgin Islands
Guam
the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands
American Samoa

Former United States Trust Territories:

Palau
the Federated States of Micronesia
the Marshall Islands

Yeah, if you count Puerto Rico, its 58! He was WAY off! What a dummy! LOLMFAB

If you count DC, it's 59. If you count rentals, its 60. If you count formal rentals it's 61.

But we're not. We're counting states. There are 50.

[Duemellon]

It's the exception five times in two weeks? He's clearly not so hot at speaking when he goes off script.Uhm...

You can't always tell when Obama is off script. You can tell when Bush does because his eyes look empty, vacant, desparate... lost.

[Docta]

It's the exception five times in two weeks? He's clearly not so hot at speaking when he goes off script.

boy, you are right. i've now seen the light. obama is just another dumbass ni.... wait nevermind

[Tweak Tweak]

boy, you are right. i've now seen the light. obama is just another dumbass ni.... wait nevermind

Jeez, man. Tone it down, huh?

[Fourthisto]

If you count DC, it's 59. If you count rentals, its 60. If you count formal rentals it's 61.Is one of those rental properties Iraq? I thought the lease was up on that sucker.

I know what you're saying, though. He goofed up, he's human - but where's the feedback ala W has received? I guess give it time. If all we care about is spelling bees and how to pronounce 18-lettered last names then why don't we elect English Professors.... :confused:

[noonan]

I think you can collect similar sets of foibles for any public person, especially those who a re talking non-stop for months and years at a time. W may seem to get more than his fair share, but pairing poor oratory with colossal mismanagement will tend do that. Trollmeter says: 3/10.

[Fourthisto]

I think you can collect similar sets of foibles for any public person, especially those who a re talking non-stop for months and years at a time.Agreed!

W may seem to get more than his fair share, but pairing poor oratory with colossal mismanagement will tend do that.Agreed!

Trollmeter says: 3/10.:D-greed!

Circle gets the square, I guess. How many keys do we have to try and start that Red 1988 Corvette with? And more importantly, after we win, where are we driving?

[Tweak Tweak]

I don't know if this counts as a "gaffe," since it's more of a bald-faced lie:

"They looked at each other and they decided, 'We know that in the world, as it has been, it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child, but something is stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Ala., because some folks are willing to march across the bridge.' And so they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Ala.!"

Of course the events to which he refers in Selma occurred four years AFTER Obama's birth. Oops.

[Tweak Tweak]

He never knows what city he's in!

“Thank you Sioux City," he said, before realizing his mistake.

He was in Sioux Falls, SD not Sioux City, IA. Doh!

[Tweak Tweak]

An intrepid reporter at the Argus-Leader tries to figure out just what the fuck Obama is talking about regarding a key foreign policy issue:

The Obama campaign says there's nothing unusual about proposing the isolation of a country at the same time a President talks about meeting with its country's leader. (The Obama campaign cites how the U.S. is talking to North Korea via the Six-Party talks as an example. Though it might be observed, those diplomatic efforts are quite different than a presidential-level meeting.)

As for the statement, and then the very qualified "if" statement about Chavez and FARC, the Obama campaign says Obama is laying out his principles. The U.S. government says all the time, "If Iran continues its nuclear program," the Obama campaign says. I don't know. Saying, "if in fact" Venezuela is aiding FARC seemed to me at least to be different than saying "if Chavez continues aiding FARC." What do you think?

So, I just spoke to an Obama campaign foreign policy adviser and this is how he explains any confusion.

Obama, he says, believes that Chavez is supportive of the FARC, both ideologically and tangibly. The Obama campaign disagrees that Obama's language -- "if, in fact, it (Chavez) is trying to ferment terrorist activities in other borders" -- is hedging language at all. Obama has been very clear that he believes that Chavez is supportive of the FARC, the adviser says.

As to the question of whether one can pledge to isolate a country while also proposing a presidential-level meeting, the adviser says that I was inaccurate in characterizing Obama as proposing such a meeting -- the reality was that Obama was merely acknowledging a willingness to meet.

But "if we are going to isolate the Venezuelans, it may be that we have to engage in a full-on diplomatic strategy with them," the adviser says. Obama was not saying he, himself, would propose such a meeting, nor that he would necessarily participate in that meeting. When Obama referred to "my talks with President Hugo Chavez," he did not mean "my talks," literally (necessarily) -- he meant his administration's talks -- "though it could be him engaging in this diplomacy directly and personally," the adviser says. The point is, all the tools need to be in the diplomacy kit -- isolation, willingness to hold presidential meetings, and everything in between.

Got it?

Umm, no. Because it's all double talk. Double talk you can believe in!

[Duemellon]

Of course the events to which he refers in Selma occurred four years AFTER Obama's birth. Oops.B/c the Civil Rights movement & build up happened over the course of just 1 year?

I guess.

[noonan]

Circle gets the square, I guess. How many keys do we have to try and start that Red 1988 Corvette with? And more importantly, after we win, where are we driving?

No, no, no, this is the 2008 incarnation of the game. We'll be taking our brand new Atom 300 up the Mary Ingles to Silver Grove. Chili dogs at the Dari Bar then maybe race a train back to Bellewood SuperBowl for a few frames.

http://images.streetfire.net/photos/0001/51/19/1001591.jpg

[rocketman70]

http://www.bigboy.com/RestaurantImages/Pie-Straw.jpg

Man that is one tasty looking strawberry pie.

[jcarwash31]

He was in Sioux Falls, SD not Sioux City, IA. Doh!
Shit, people who live in Sioux Falls get that wrong from time to time.

[Fourthisto]

No, no, no, this is the 2008 incarnation of the game. We'll be taking our brand new Atom 300 up the Mary Ingles to Silver Grove. Chili dogs at the Dari Bar then maybe race a train back to Bellewood SuperBowl for a few frames.DUDE, that sounds like the best day ever. What time do we leave?

http://www.bigboy.com/RestaurantImages/Pie-Straw.jpg

Man that is one tasty looking strawberry pie.DAYUM! Fix me up with summa that, son!!!! :drooling smiley here, where's Wolverine when you need him:

[Tweak Tweak]

B/c the Civil Rights movement & build up happened over the course of just 1 year?

I guess.

Quote: "something is stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Ala., because some folks are willing to march across the bridge.' And so they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born."

The march across the Edmund Pettus Bridge, specifically cited in the quote as the spark that caused his birth -- not some general "build up" -- occurred four years after BHO's birth.

Gee, Barry! Was there sniper fire, too?

BTW: Mr. Mellon, or whatever you go by, nice knowledge of the Civil Rights Movement.

[Macpherson]

i'll pay attention as soon as you make a mccainisms thread.:rolleyes:

[Fourthisto]

Yeah, what Elle McPherson said! We demand equality in our criticisms!!

[rocketman70]

i'll pay attention as soon as you make a mccainisms thread.:rolleyes:

Oh we'd be here forever starting with his ::ahem:: most unusual interpretation of the Beach Boys 'Barbara Ann'.

[Duemellon]

BTW: Mr. Mellon, or whatever you go by, nice knowledge of the Civil Rights Movement.I seriously doubt you're new to these boards.

I could be wrong, but my spidey-senses are tingly.

[slopechz]

Tweak Tweak is doing a nice job of stirring the pot. Perhaps it would be best to ignore rather than feed the beast. :)

[wileE]

I'm not voting for any politician unless s/he is a perfect orator. There is no room in the White House, or senate for that matter, for verbal mistakes. Speaking miscues are a sign of weakness, inner doubt and discombobulation.

[Tweak Tweak]

This is a classic. TRAGEDY IN KANSAS!

“In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed,” the Democratic presidential candidate said Tuesday in a speech to 500 people packed into a sweltering Richmond art studio for a fundraiser.

Actual death toll: 12.

[Tweak Tweak]

Canada no longer using a parliamentary system? You heard it from Barry first!

Obama said upon becoming president, "I would immediately call the president of Mexico, the president of Canada, to try to amend NAFTA, because I think that we can get labor agreements in that agreement right now."

Can anyone name the President of Canada?

It's Wayne Gretzky!

[markalot]

I'm surprised that someone would compare the two, it makes no sense. It's pretty obvious that while everyone makes gaffs Bush took it to the next level. I don't really care and I think pointing out gaffs is childish, and I said as much in an old Bush thread. I did not vote, or will not vote, for someone based on oratory skills.

[Tweak Tweak]

Obama on Kentucky geography:

“Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it’s not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle.”

Illinois and Kentucky share a border. Kentucky and Arkansas do not.

[Tweak Tweak]

On Hugo Chavez's election as a reaction to Bush foreign policy:

Since the Bush Administration launched a misguided war in Iraq, its policy in the Americas has been negligent toward our friends, ineffective with our adversaries, disinterested in the challenges that matter in peoples' lives, and incapable of advancing our interests in the region. No wonder, then, that demagogues like Hugo Chavez have stepped into this vacuum.

When was Chavez elected? 1988.

[bestlaidplans]

http://www.wh-networks.com/buffer/ring-tailed%20lemur.jpg

[Tweak Tweak]

Bad Netizens! Hotlinking other people's photographs is bandwidth theft and a possible infringement of copyright.

Tsk tsk.

Nice toucan, though.

[jcarwash31]

http://www.wildernessclassroom.com/www/schoolhouse/rainforest_library/animal_images/toucan.jpg

[Tweak Tweak]

All you have to do is check the copyright on the image, obtain permission to use it, and then upload it to your own Photobucket, flickr or Picasa site.

[the-dude]

http://members.aol.com/plittle/StrawmanPoster.jpg


When was Chavez elected? 1988.

Wrong!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_presidential_election%2C_1998

1988 != 1998. Since misspeaking is obviously unforgivable, that makes you an unreliable source for information.

[Varekai]

Hmm, sometime slightly before 5/20/08, John McCain's campaign website posted a call to action for annoying spammers to come to his rescue and post his talking points on a variety of blogs. Now, woxy isn't listed among the blogs that will get you "McCain Points" for your spam-errific efforts, but it does make you wonder about Mr. Tweak Joined-the-Boards-on-5/19/08 Tweak, don't it?

[DaHood]

We already know who tweak is. The best thing to do is ignore him. :)

[DaHood]

I seriously doubt you're new to these boards.

I could be wrong, but my spidey-senses are tingly.Take a guess. He isn't that hard to figure out.

[Duemellon]

Take a guess. He isn't that hard to figure out.Well, I still give people the benefit of the doubt until I know for sure. Do you have something specific that would say who it is for sure?

[Frost]

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5838/motivator9977205ds4.jpg

[frizgolf]

Take a guess. He isn't that hard to figure out.

What if that guess is wrong?

[Frost]

What if that guess is wrong?

Then you'll have to move to a new town. Or burb. Or ville.

[markalot]

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5838/motivator9977205ds4.jpg

... WoW .........

[PeterABnny]

What if that guess is wrong?


True, but the writing and arguing styles are tellingly similar.

Come on, guys; do we REALLY believe Orville Wrong would be gone forever? He climaxed on being an asshole - why would he ever give it up? If he isn't already here under an alt, he will be soon. Like so much other vermin, the only way we'll be rid of him for good is for him to be killed off somewhere somehow. When he comes back his posts will give the game away.

Regarding this ridiculous thread, I think it was started because of a one-sided love affair that went south. You know, the whole spurned lover thing.

[Tweak Tweak]

New day, new material!

Obama also spoke about his uncle, who was part of the American brigade that helped to liberate Auschwitz. He said the family legend is that, upon returning from war, his uncle spent six months in an attic. “Now obviously, something had really affected him deeply, but at that time there just weren’t the kinds of facilities to help somebody work through that kind of pain,” Obama said. “That’s why this idea of making sure that every single veteran, when they are discharged, are screened for post-traumatic stress disorder and given the mental health services that they need – that’s why it’s so important.”

At what point did US forces enter Poland, where Auschwitz was situated? Never.

Obama: Making shit up you can believe in!

[markalot]

OW?

No, my vote is for ianalex. Maybe they're all the same.

[Tweak Tweak]

"McCain Points"

John McCain blows dogs for wine change.*

I want my t-shirt, you dust-farting flyboy. Pony up.

*Anyone that knows the origin of this phrase gets "Tweak Points" redeemable for drinks at participating bars in Coeur d'Alene and environs.

[Varekai]

New day, new material!



At what point did US forces enter Poland, where Auschwitz was situated? Never.

Obama: Making shit up you can believe in!

For anyone who may still be reading this thread, and who hasn't heard the explanation for this yet, Obama confused Buchenwald with Auschwitz. You can try to pretend it's an outright falsehood, but it's far from it.

Asshat.

PS Did it really take you this freaking long to find out about that? I read that ON Memorial Day. Not only are you an asshat, but you're a slow asshat.

[markalot]

Ok I'm back to OW, ianalex didn't have this much flair.

[Tweak Tweak]

For anyone who may still be reading this thread, and who hasn't heard the explanation for this yet, Obama confused Buchenwald with Auschwitz. You can try to pretend it's an outright falsehood, but it's far from it.

Asshat.

PS Did it really take you this freaking long to find out about that? I read that ON Memorial Day. Not only are you an asshat, but you're a slow asshat.

Thanks for the ad hominem! I'll whip up some hominem grits. Mmmm.

There's an explanation for each and every one of the remarks on this very long list, usually offered by a staffer with amazing powers of contortion.

Often the explanation is as much fun as the original screw up.

[Varekai]

Thanks for the ad hominem! I'll whip up some hominem grits. Mmmm.

There's an explanation for each and every one of the remarks on this very long list, usually offered by a staffer with amazing powers of contortion.

Often the explanation is as much fun as the original screw up.

Well, then, I guess it would be up to the public to decide if those explanations are good enough or not. The fact that you came in here, and posted that he was "making shit up" actually shows us that YOU are far more willing to distort facts than Obama has shown he is.

[juggles]

New day, new material!


Quote:
Obama also spoke about his uncle, who was part of the American brigade that helped to liberate Auschwitz. He said the family legend is that, upon returning from war, his uncle spent six months in an attic. “Now obviously, something had really affected him deeply, but at that time there just weren’t the kinds of facilities to help somebody work through that kind of pain,” Obama said. “That’s why this idea of making sure that every single veteran, when they are discharged, are screened for post-traumatic stress disorder and given the mental health services that they need – that’s why it’s so important.”

At what point did US forces enter Poland, where Auschwitz was situated? Never.

Obama: Making shit up you can believe in!

You know, I really don't want to get into the pissing contest that this thread is bound to be, but in the interest of clearing up any misunderstandings from the above quote, yes, Obama mistakenly said Auschwitz when in fact Buchenwald was the Nazi concentration camp that his uncle helped liberate. I'd cite a source but they should be plentiful to anyone with a search engine.

[Tweak Tweak]

Well, then, I guess it would be up to the public to decide if those explanations are good enough or not. The fact that you came in here, and posted that he was "making shit up" actually shows us that YOU are far more willing to distort facts than Obama has shown he is.

No insults this time, thanks. Civility is a fine thing.

I was reading your posts, and thinking, "Hey, this person should probably vote for Obama because he/she/it really likes him."

You should. Totally.

[Tweak Tweak]

yes, Obama mistakenly said Auschwitz when in fact Buchenwald was the Nazi concentration camp that his uncle helped liberate. I'd cite a source but they should be plentiful to anyone with a search engine.

Thanks Honorary Obama Staffer! Hope you don't get honorarily fired the next time the boss "mis-remembers," "mis-speaks," is "mis-interpreted" or "makes shit up."

I'm just enjoying listening to the greatest public speaker since Ron Popeil.

[Varekai]

No insults, thanks.

I was reading your posts, and thinking, "Hey, this person should probably vote for Obama because he/she/it really likes him."

You should. Totally.

Gee whiz, I don't know why I didn't think of that.

And in case you missed it, I pretty much called you willfully deceitful in that last post. Guess it all depends on what you view as an insult maybe.

[Tweak Tweak]

Gee whiz, I don't know why I didn't think of that.

And in case you missed it, I pretty much called you willfully deceitful in that last post. Guess it all depends on what you view as an insult maybe.

Oh, you'll totally dig it. They give you a sticker! Make sure you register, you want that precious little vote of yours to count.

And the insult was veiled! Pardon my credit to your civility, it was in error.

[Tweak Tweak]

"Poor tools require better skills" - Marcel Duchamp

"It's like a Titian, except instead of gaining an elevated perspective on humanity and the divine, you piss in it. And you can hang a superior work -- like a Bodog Sportsbook poster with a slut on it -- right above it!"

Marcel Duchamp's Agent

[twentyshots]

you have a funny way of dealing with rejection. and I don't mean fake dog poop funny.

[Tweak Tweak]

you have a funny way of dealing with rejection. and I don't mean fake dog poop funny.

There's nothing funny about a fifth of Cutty and 322 voicemails. At least the Coeur d'Alene PD didn't think so.

[REMgirl]

I've never understood people hanging around where they clearly weren't wanted.

That said, I'm off to listen to Ignoreland.

[Tweak Tweak]

Obama's been using this latest whopper in a variety of formats as far back as 2002, whence comes this snippet:

My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton's army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain. I don't oppose all wars.

It was his grandfather then instead of his uncle (who can keep all those darn ancestors straight, anyway?). And ole gramps talked to several of those rare American GIs that liberated not one but two Polish concentration camps! One of which was destroyed by the Nazis themselves a year before D-Day.

But who cares, it's a hell of a story. I bet there were snipers!

[Tweak Tweak]

I've never understood people hanging around where they clearly weren't wanted.

Me neither.

That said, I'm off to listen to Ignoreland.

Problem solved.

[Breeze]

I've never understood people hanging around where they clearly weren't wanted.

Obviously because there are still those who will feed the trolls.

[Tweak Tweak]

Obviously because there are still those who will feed the trolls.

This thread is anti-Obama. So what? Since when does that constitute trolling? I'm fielding all replies with good grace. Even yours, toots.

[BigSugar]

i think TT is actually Hillary. bitch won't quit.

[Macpherson]

i think TT is actually Hillary. bitch won't quit.

that made me laugh.

[Tweak Tweak]

i think TT is actually Hillary. bitch won't quit.

I'm not Hillary. And since I am a man, I am "tenacious" and "goal oriented," not "stubborn" and "bitchy."

[Tweak Tweak]

that made me laugh.

I went to the pub in Coeur d'Alene last night and asked for Jameson. "There's none," says Ann, "Seamus was in last night and drank it all."

"Tullamore Dew, then," says I. "No luck," she says, "Padraig was in on Monday and finished it off. We've Bushmill's, though."

"Fuck then, a screwdriver it is," I decide.

"That's not like you at all. What gives?" Ann asks.

"I'd sooner drink orange juice than Orange liquor."

[The Big Crunch]

I'm guessing OW as well, and I'm guessing he was too clouded by his own self-worship to notice that people really didn't like him, and were quite happy to see his presence vanish from the boards.

Well, what a fun thread. I guess it would be one thing to make humorous remarks concerning gaffes in political speeches but ol' Tweaky is hell bent on "tweaking" them into provocations laced with some deftly placed malice. It's troll-baiting - one way or another this is all intended to start a fight with anyone he can.

I'm done with this thread, and as of now, I'm done with Tweaky.

Tweak Tweak, welcome to my Ignore list.

There...problem solved. Time to celebrate with some old Billy Bragg.

[Hogarth]

Sorry Tweak, but I'm afraid I must go "nucular" on you too.

Good Night Now.

[frizgolf]

Where's the copycat thread: oBAM!isms...?

[Hogarth]

This thread is much more enjoyable with TT on ignore!

[Lonestar]

In case anyone is wondering where the brilliant research of Tweek Twerp came from.. a mere one article..


http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MichelleMalkin/2008/05/21/barack_obama_gaffe_machine

[Predot listener]

In case anyone is wondering where the brilliant research of Tweek Twerp came from.. a mere one article..


http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MichelleMalkin/2008/05/21/barack_obama_gaffe_machine


From Tweek's source material...

-- Explaining last week why he was trailing Hillary Clinton in Kentucky, Obama again botched basic geography: "Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it's not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle." On what map is Arkansas closer to Kentucky than Illinois?

All of them. It's close, but Kentucky is actually closer, which is probably something you should get right if you're going to be a nitpicking bitch.

As for Tweek, nearby does not equal neighboring. And culturally speaking, Kentucky is about 1,000 miles closer to Arkansas than O'Bama's Chicago environs.

[Tweak Tweak]

All of them. It's close, but Kentucky is actually closer, which is probably something you should get right if you're going to be a nitpicking bitch.

Quoted for posterity, since this geographic illiterate's post will probably be deleted upon reflection, or upon the kindhearted advice of friends.

Anyway, not to be a "nitpicking bitch," but please find me a US map on which Kentucky does not SHARE A BORDER WITH ILLINOIS (hint: locate Ohio River, follow southwest). Likewise, if you can find me one on which Kentucky and Arkansas share such a border, I would love to inspect it.

Obama is a US Senator, he represents ALL OF ILLINOIS, even the parts that SHARE A BORDER WITH KENTUCKY.

Some people.

[Tweak Tweak]

As for my sources (plural): I used news media accounts (including the in-the-tank-for-Barry MSNBC), blogs (Michelle Malkin, Mickey Kaus, Megan McArdle), etc. The latest concentration camp blunder I heard on CNN yesterday a.m. and located in the Christian Science Monitor after arriving at work.

The Google string to use for those that would like to play along is "Obama gaffe."

[Tweak Tweak]

From a recent Obama address:

I began following the debates in this country about poverty and health care. So that by the time I graduated from college, I was possessed with a crazy idea - that I would work at a grassroots level to bring about change.
I wrote letters to every organization in the country I could think of. And one day, a small group of churches on the South Side of Chicago offered me a job to come work as a community organizer in neighborhoods that had been devastated by steel plant closings. My mother and grandparents wanted me to go to law school. My friends were applying to jobs on Wall Street. Meanwhile, this organization offered me $12,000 a year plus $2,000 for an old, beat-up car.

And I said yes

Except he didn't. Obama graduated from Columbia in 1983, and went immediately to work in New York City for corporate and then research institutional concerns. He didn't work for the "grassroots" in Chicago until 1985, and then only for three years, before starting law school.

Wow, some sacrifice, Barry. Your opponent spent these years of his life hanging upside down in Hanoi being beaten with sticks.

[slopechz]

The Google string to use for those that would like to play along is "Obama gaffe."

Looks like your playing with yourself. :D

[Breeze]

Looks like your playing with yourself. :D

Maybe there are some beads on that string...

[Tweak Tweak]

Maybe there are some beads on that string...

Those are the ears and testes of murdered vagrants. Keep up with your rent.

[Breeze]

Those are the ears and testes of murdered vagrants.

Oh, how this takes me back to talk of machine-gun nests and offing seven-year-old kids...

[Predot listener]

Quoted for posterity, since this geographic illiterate's post will probably be deleted upon reflection, or upon the kindhearted advice of friends.

Anyway, not to be a "nitpicking bitch," but please find me a US map on which Kentucky does not SHARE A BORDER WITH ILLINOIS (hint: locate Ohio River, follow southwest). Likewise, if you can find me one on which Kentucky and Arkansas share such a border, I would love to inspect it.

Obama is a US Senator, he represents ALL OF ILLINOIS, even the parts that SHARE A BORDER WITH KENTUCKY.

Some people.

I wasn't quoting your post, but Malkin's (which, I read as stating Illinois was closer to Arkansas than Kentucky is, rather than Illinois was closer to Kentucky than Arkansas is. My geography is just fine. Malkin's sentence structure was shaky.

Your silliness was confusing "nearby" with "adjacent to." That still stands.

[Lonestar]

So Tweak, who ya voting for? Let me guess, you're not impressed any of 'em..

[silentpaul]

I think it's cute the way he thinks we care what he's saying.

[frizgolf]

I think it's cute the way he thinks we care what he's saying.

Someone must.
There are five pages of responses.

[Duemellon]

So Tweak, who ya voting for? Let me guess, you're not impressed any of 'em..I know who...

He would write in "God", but to be specific, he'll just put it by his proper name: Orville Wright.

[PeterABnny]

I know who...

He would write in "God", but to be specific, he'll just put it by his proper name: Orville Wright.

I suppose by now he's outed himself with his very own thread. Interesting in that instead of ridiculing and insulting people directly he's constrained himself to simply trolling and flame-baiting on issues/people like Obama. Perhaps he figures he'll last longer that way before eventually getting banned again...

What is woxy's policy regarding people who get banned but then return under an alt username? Do they automatically get banned again or would they be given probation? Wouldn't OW be found out by tracing his IP address?

Not that it matters, really. By now it's a moot point. If memory serves Shivy said he was only banned for a month anyway (like that's gonna do anything). So, like a herpes outbreak he's back. Fuck 'im; I'm just putting him on ignore and be done with him.

[PeterABnny]

Someone must.
There are five pages of responses.

Indeed:
http://hoboken411.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/please-do-not-feed-the-hoboken-trolls.jpg

[Tweak Tweak]

So Tweak, who ya voting for? Let me guess, you're not impressed any of 'em..

Sadly, I am not a US citizen... yet. However, I will be happy to counsel you on your vote.

[Lonestar]

Sadly, I am not a US citizen... yet. However, I will be happy to counsel you on your vote.

Sure thing! Knock yourself out. Type 'till your heart's content. Sell me! Who should I vote for??

Btw, welcome to the America!

[markalot]

http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9609.html

http://www.89infdivww2.org/

[Tweak Tweak]

Sure thing! Knock yourself out. Type 'till your heart's content. Sell me! Who should I vote for??

Btw, welcome to the America!

I suppose you should vote for the candidate that most closely hews to your beliefs and policy positions. That may be difficult, and may involve trade-offs.

For instance, you will not gain satisfaction if a strong immigration enforcement regime is your top priority, as none of these three are likely to pursue it.

You should favor McCain, however, if free trade is important to you, since both of the Dem candidates are happy to throw the American consumer (100% of US workers are consumers!) under the bus to placate their puppetmasters in organized labor (11% of US workers are in trade unions!). This is one major difference that sets McCain apart.

The Supreme Court is an excellent means of making your choice. McCain will favor constructionists, and the others will favor legislators. There are likely to be two appointments at stake.

The other would, of course, be the war. Obama and Clinton have pledged an immediate withdrawal irrespective of conditions in Iraq; McCain has vowed to see it through. This is a non-issue to me, I simply don't care about Iraq or Iraqis. But if it's your top issue, you certainly will be able to make your decision on that basis.

Everything else is distraction: Obama won't "change" anything, as he is weak and inexperienced, and is prone to making atrocious personnel decisions (Zbigniew Brzezinski, anyone?); Clinton will operate as a triangulating, poll-driven centrist, with a few exceptions. There will be no national healthcare in any of our lifetimes, there will be no "solution" to higher gas prices (all three have ruled out the only real solutions, which involve nuclear power and aggressive exploration for, and extraction and refining of our own petroleum resources).

[Tweak Tweak]

http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9609.html

http://www.89infdivww2.org/

Gaffemeister and fabulist that he is, I never doubted he had an uncle that served. Buchenwald isn't the camp Obama mentioned, because he's ditzier than a Pi Phi, but I assumed his uncle existed, served in the military, and liberated a concentration camp.

[markalot]

Gaffemeister and fabulist that he is, I never doubted he had an uncle that served. Buchenwald isn't the camp Obama mentioned, because he's ditzier than a Pi Phi, but I assumed his uncle existed, served in the military, and liberated a concentration camp.

Then why even mention it? Opposition to someone for silly gaffs undercuts any legitimate reasons you or I might have for not voting for Obama. I made the same argument when people were making fun of Bush.

Now one point I think IS legitimate here is that Obama should have done more research if he was going to use an example in a speech. Why didn't he? Does it matter? It's an odd mistake to make, but won't factor into my decision to support him or not. The post prior to this one contains more reasons why I might hesitate to vote for Obama or Clinton.

[Tweak Tweak]

Then why even mention it? Opposition to someone for silly gaffs undercuts any legitimate reasons you or I might have for not voting for Obama. I made the same argument when people were making fun of Bush.

Now one point I think IS legitimate here is that Obama should have done more research if he was going to use an example in a speech. Why didn't he? Does it matter? It's an odd mistake to make, but won't factor into my decision to support him or not. The post prior to this one contains more reasons why I might hesitate to vote for Obama or Clinton.

Pointing out gaffes seemed to provide solace for the Dems during their eight years in the GWB wilderness, and since Obama appears to suffer as badly from Foot-in-Mouth, I thought it would give me something to do for the next five years, even if it is depressing that we're electing another moron.

[Lonestar]

Pointing out gaffes seemed to provide solace for the Dems during their eight years in the GWB wilderness, and since Obama appears to suffer as badly from Foot-in-Mouth, I thought it would give me something to do for the next five years, even if it is depressing that we're electing another moron.

The moron that McCain is proud to have support from, and proudly campaigned for during his run for re-election.

[Lonestar]

McCain has vowed to see it through. This is a non-issue to me, I simply don't care about Iraq or Iraqis. But if it's your top issue, you certainly will be able to make your decision on that basis.


The Old McCain I could deal with, but the new McCain worries me. He's been pandering to the left more every day. He now HAS set a time table for withdraw. 2013 is the magic year! By the end of his first term..