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Duemellon
04 Feb 2008, 10:31 AM
If Obama was to be nominated as the only candidate for the Democratic party, what does that say about national race relations between whites & blacks, opportunities for blacks, & other things?Also consider the rest of the current race-relations climate or other things going on. If Obama was to become president elect, how does that reflect changes, progress, on equality, opportunity & stuff?Yes, I'm curious to hear what others have to say. It'll be awhile before I make an comments, if any at all.

Lemon
04 Feb 2008, 10:43 AM
Dennis Haysbert changed everything.

Breeze
04 Feb 2008, 11:21 AM
Dennis Haysbert changed everything.

I'll say--I switched to Allstate!

markalot
04 Feb 2008, 11:26 AM
It might underline the fact that we have less of a race issue and more of a class or culture issue. You might say Obama is white enough to win.

If Obama wins I suspect people will say it's not about race, it's about vision.

If Obama loses I suspect people will say it was because of race.

See how that works.

If Obama wins there will be a lot of people left with one less excuse to fail. Maybe they might vote against him so it doesn't happen? I believe the media is referring to this as - not convinced a black man can win-

drougan
04 Feb 2008, 12:00 PM
Personally, I'm pleased that there will be a viable "minority" candidate in the Dems camp, period. I'll post some more thoughts later on.

the-dude
04 Feb 2008, 01:48 PM
It might underline the fact that we have less of a race issue and more of a class or culture issue. You might say Obama is white enough to win.

If Obama wins I suspect people will say it's not about race, it's about vision.

If Obama loses I suspect people will say it was because of race.

See how that works.

If Obama wins there will be a lot of people left with one less excuse to fail. Maybe they might vote against him so it doesn't happen? I believe the media is referring to this as - not convinced a black man can win-
I pretty much agree with this.

I still think race relations are a very regional issue nationally. This is due to varying levels of segregation and inequality.

1 - Democrat nomination - I think could actually be a sign of inequity and mobilization of minority voters.
2. - Wins Presidency - If he can pull this off he needs to get moderate white support. If he can get that it would be a very positive sign for race relations. But I think more importantly it would be a fairly symbolic gesture.

I agree in general with the concept that class and poverty have more to do with the struggle of black americans than race, but race is still a factor. And electing obama, while its not going to solve anything immediately, could be a very positive thing within the community. Seeing a person of color win at a white man's game could be very inspiring to many people of all different kinds.

Has anyone ever seen Head of State? I love that movie (mostly because of Nate Dogg's interludes).

classicgrrl
04 Feb 2008, 09:27 PM
I think it would be fucking fantastic.

and it would show the rest of the world that we put our votes where our mouths are.....

people will say he won because he was "white" enough and people will say he won because he is "black" enough. fuck 'em, who cares. I think it will be great, welcome and BADLY needed breath of fresh air.

old pasty white men are ugly and I'm tired of looking at them and I'm tired of hearing from them.

give me something new.

Roy, how would it feel to you to turn on the State of the Union address and hear and see it from a guy who looked like you?

now THAT would be cool and awesome.

Homsar
05 Feb 2008, 12:14 AM
All of a sudden, a woman and a non-white man are the at the forefront of the presidential race. It was like everyone was nervous about doing it, but now that it's happened, we're all realizing it was never a big deal anyway.

I don't really know much about the race relations situation, as long as whoever is elected does a good job. If Obama isn't elected, I want it to be because he wasn't the best choice for the job. The same goes with Hilary and all the other candidates.

Duemellon
05 Feb 2008, 08:55 AM
Roy, how would it feel to you to turn on the State of the Union address and hear and see it from a guy who looked like you?

now THAT would be cool and awesome.I am running for President. I became legal age last year so I put my hat in. So it would be cool to see ME giving it.

However, I don't think Obama looks much like me. Even his skin-color is different.

DaHood
05 Feb 2008, 10:57 AM
Oh that's all we need. A mellon in the white house. What next? HoneyDue in congress? There goes the country!

akip
05 Feb 2008, 11:44 AM
what's cool to me is how my kid is so excited about obama. he's the future, not me.

Frost
05 Feb 2008, 04:02 PM
It would say as much as any symbolic statement could say. The behind the scenes, systemic stuff would still need working out, but it would be the biggest symbol that we could point at. It would really change a lot of things. A lot. That said, It aint happenin. I'm 1-0 in predictions against people on this board, having crushed dcxhc and driven him into obscurity.

So anytime you feel like dying, feel free to bet against me in the fireswamp. Hillary will win and go against McCain. After that, McCain will prevail after hillary does or says something stupid, or sexism kicks in.

I feel like we were on a boat headed the wrong direction at high speeds - obama would be like that ship making a hairpin turn and going back the other way at the same rate of speed. That aint happenin. Hillary would be like the ship stopping and heading the other way.

But wait, we haven't even slown the ship down to stop - mccain is the slowdown to stop.

Breeze
05 Feb 2008, 04:12 PM
But wait, we haven't even slown the ship down to stop

Or did you mean Sloan?
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DaHood
05 Feb 2008, 04:25 PM
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Breeze
05 Feb 2008, 04:34 PM
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Fourthisto
05 Feb 2008, 04:38 PM
Whoa whoa whoa - Obama is a back man? I had no idea. I guess that's what I get for focusing on stances, track records from managing real life political issues, differences in personalities and quirks rather than race and gender. Silly me!

Breeze
05 Feb 2008, 05:06 PM
Whoa whoa whoa - Obama is a back man? I had no idea. I guess that's what I get for focusing on stances, track records from managing real life political issues, differences in personalities and quirks rather than race and gender. Silly me!

It's a back thing; you wouldn't understand.

classicgrrl
05 Feb 2008, 05:19 PM
I am running for President. I became legal age last year so I put my hat in. So it would be cool to see ME giving it.

However, I don't think Obama looks much like me. Even his skin-color is different.

ah hell, he's closer than Hillary!

Frost
05 Feb 2008, 05:21 PM
It's a back thing; you wouldn't understand.

hahahahahahahahaha :D:D:D

Duemellon
05 Feb 2008, 05:54 PM
ah hell, he's closer than Hillary!Her mother looks like my mother than Obama's : )

(you aren't gonna win this one :þ )

classicgrrl
05 Feb 2008, 09:00 PM
Her mother looks like my mother than Obama's : )

(you aren't gonna win this one :þ )

I didn't say look like your mother, I said someone who looked like YOU. Unless you are saying that Hillary Clinton looks more like you than Obama...

I haven't seen you in awhile.....

is there something you need to fill me in on? :eek:

Breeze
05 Feb 2008, 09:35 PM
I didn't say look like your mother, I said someone who looked like YOU.
Are we really doing "yo mama" comments? Seems so stereotypical.