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euro60
01 Feb 2008, 02:01 PM
Surprised that this hasn't prompted a board discussion yet (unless it has and I missed it). This is huge news, in my opinion. From the Financial Times (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c074487c-d0bb-11dc-953a-0000779fd2ac.html):


Microsoft offers $44.6bn for Yahoo

By Andrew Parker, Andrew Edgecliffe-Johnson and Maija Palmer

Published: February 1 2008 11:57 | Last updated: February 1 2008 15:45

Microsoft said on Friday it had offered to buy search engine group Yahoo with a proposal that values the internet group’s equity at $44.6bn, as the software giant seeks to catch up with arch-rival Google.

If completed, it would be the largest acquisition that Microsoft has made and the biggest internet merger since AOL bought Time Warner for $112bn in 2000

The proposed offer price is below Yahoo’s 52-week high of $34.08 reached last October.

Microsoft signalled that a combination of the two companies would provide stronger competition for Google, the leading internet search engine. It said the proposed combination could generate synergies of $1bn, and provide significant economies of scale.

Steve Ballmer, Microsoft chief executive, said: “We see this as the next major milestone in the transformation of the company to embrace online services.

“Microsoft and Yahoo are companies that share a vision for online services and the result of a combination will be a company that is more efficient and successful.”

The approach from Microsoft comes at the end of a difficult week for Yahoo. On Thursday Terry Semel, the former chief executive of the search group, resigned as chairman and earlier in the week Yahoo reported results which revealed fourth quarter net income fell sharply compared to the year before and the outlook had deteriorated.

Microsoft has been trying to build market share in online advertising with acquisitions such as the $6bn purchase of Aquantive last year. The company has stated a goal of being the number two in this market within the next few years.

Microsoft has just a 3.5 per cent share of all internet searches globally, coming in fourth behind Google, Yahoo, and Baidu, the Chinese search engine, according to Comscore, the internet tracking company. Google by far dominates this category with 66 per cent, and even a combined Microsoft/Yahoo would be a distant second with less than 17 per cent of the market.

In the US, the combined group would pose more of a challenge to Google, with 34 per cent of the market to Google’s 54. However, in Europe, the merger would have little effect, as Google commands 87 per cent of the online search market while a combined Microsoft/Yahoo would have just 4.6 per cent.

Microsoft said it had been in on-off talks with Yahoo over the last 18 months about a combination, but had been turned down by Yahoo’s board, which had been hoping to see an improvement in the company’s performance after founder Jerry Yang resumed running of the company and put forward a turnaround plan.

However, in a strongly-worded letter to Yahoo’s board, Mr Ballmer said: “A year has gone by, and the competitive situation has not improved.”

In a short statement in response, Yahoo said its board would “evaluate this proposal carefully and promptly in the context of Yahoo!’s strategic plans and pursue the best course of action to maximize long-term value for shareholders.”

Microsoft has struck as Wall Street is growing increasingly disillusioned with Yahoo. The search engine group’s earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation are projected to fall to 32 per cent of revenue in 2008. That is sharply down from a margin of 38 per cent in 2007, with Yahoo having promised to improve the situation in 2009.

Yahoo’s shares slid earlier this week after it issued a downbeat outlook for this year reflecting its struggles to revamp its core online services. The decline took the total fall since October to 45 per cent and pointed to Wall Street’s growing doubts that co-founder Jerry Yang, who stepped into the chief executive chair last year, can revive the fortunes of one of the brightest stars of the internet’s first decade.

Analysts were unconvinced that a combination of Microsoft and Yahoo would be a more effective competitor to Google.

“They have set a series of very aggressive goals, but overall Microsoft’s online business is floundering and the only way they can grow their business is with a big acquisition like this,” said Ian Maude, analyst at Enders Analysis.

However, Mr Maude was sceptical about how much the deal would help Microsoft.

“The main problem is that online advertising is largely driven by search, and Google owns that market. The one thing this deal doesn’t do is fix that problem,” he said.

Henry Blodget, the former technology analyst writing on his blog, said: ”This is a brilliant move by Microsoft - a big premium dangled in front of battered Yahoo shareholders, but a price that would have seemed absurdly low as recently as six months ago. Given Yahoo’s battered stock and low 2008 outlook, we expect the offer will be accepted.”

“This deal looks much more likely to happen this time,” agreed John Delaney, analyst at Ovum. “Yahoo hasn’t made a convincing turnaround, and advertising is in a precarious position in a downturn. Microsoft would provide a safehaven for the company in a worsening economic climate.”

Microsoft said a combination with Yahoo would benefit from economies of scale in the online advertising market.

Other advantages included pooling engineering talent to accelerate innovation, operational efficiencies by stripping out costs, and the ability to seize on emerging opportunities such as video and mobile.

Kevin Johnson, Microsoft’s president of platforms and services, said: “The combined assets and strong services focus of these two companies will enable us to achieve scale economics while reaching R&D critical mass to deliver innovation breakthroughs.”

Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2008

drougan
01 Feb 2008, 02:09 PM
Wow...This move would probably invigorate them (microsoft and yahoo) both as online portals. The more potential they could bring to online computing the better off they'll be.

I suspect Google might be looking to acquire some more software development capabilities in the near future, and eventually take a swipe at the Windows operating system. They seem to be taking quiet baby steps in this realm (buying SketchUp and starting the Destop Search and running Google Documents.

The internet/personal computing landscape could get very interesting, depending on how Google plays their partnerships in the future.

markalot
01 Feb 2008, 02:57 PM
I pay $15 a year for the premium yahoo email without ads. Hopefully Microsoft will continue with this program, but I kind of suspect they'd rather bombard me and everyone I send email to with ads.

silentpaul
01 Feb 2008, 03:27 PM
I pay $15 a year for the premium yahoo email without ads. Hopefully Microsoft will continue with this program, but I kind of suspect they'd rather bombard me and everyone I send email to with ads.

Microsoft said a combination with Yahoo would benefit from economies of scale in the online advertising market.

You may be onto something M...

ETA: I use google precisely because there's no crap all over the place. The main page is basic and straightforward. The search results pages make sense. There are sponsored links, but they don't look like ads, so they don't distract / annoy me. Unless Microhoo can make it even simpler they'll always fall short.

Shlep
01 Feb 2008, 06:37 PM
Damn...Suntzu was too fast for me...

Marlowe
01 Feb 2008, 08:44 PM
you know, i've never really knows exactly what to do about words that have exclamation marks in them, like yahoo! and hamilton! ohio. if you're writing a newspaper article about the latest quarterly earnings, do you actually write 'yahoo!' every time through the article? or do you do it the first time only? and what if 'yahoo!' comes at the end of a sentence that you really DO want to express excitement? do you use two exclamation marks? "microsoft bids $45 billion for yahoo!!" how does that work?

so i guess what i'm trying to say, if this merger manages to resolve that whole exclamation mark issue, then i'm all for it.

Fourthisto
01 Feb 2008, 09:24 PM
This is like the Yankees buying the Red Sox. I just can't stop booing, and I'm low on beer.

Breeze
01 Feb 2008, 10:51 PM
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/01/25/amywinehousedrugs_narrowweb__300x483,0.jpg

Docta
02 Feb 2008, 06:18 AM
so i guess what i'm trying to say, if this merger manages to resolve that whole exclamation mark issue, then i'm all for it.

what you don't want it to bleed over and be working for microsoft! ?

Marlowe
02 Feb 2008, 06:38 AM
the new mashup name that the press seems to be settling on is "microhoo!"

REMgirl
02 Feb 2008, 07:58 AM
the new mashup name that the press seems to be settling on is "microhoo!"

Well, that's probably better than "yasoft".

classicgrrl
09 Feb 2008, 11:05 PM
The gloves are off...
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http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080209/microsoft_yahoo.html

Yahoo Board Intends to Turn Down Microsoft's Unsolicited $44.6 Billion Takeover Bid

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Yahoo Inc.'s board will reject Microsoft Corp.'s $44.6 billion takeover bid after concluding the unsolicited offer undervalues the slumping Internet pioneer, a person familiar with the situation said Saturday.

The decision could provoke a showdown between two of the world's most prominent technology companies with Internet search leader Google Inc. looming in the background. Leery of Microsoft expanding its turf on the Internet, Google already has offered to help Yahoo avert a takeover and urged antitrust regulators to take a hard look at the proposed deal.

If the world's largest software maker wants Yahoo badly enough, Microsoft could try to override Yahoo's board by taking its offer -- originally valued at $31 per share -- directly to the shareholders. Pursuing that risky route probably will require Microsoft to attempt to oust Yahoo's current 10-member board.

Alternatively, Microsoft could sweeten its bid. Many analysts believe Microsoft is prepared to offer as much as $35 per share for Yahoo, which still boasts one of the Internet's largest audiences and most powerful advertising vehicles despite a prolonged slump that has hammered its stock.

Yahoo's board reached the decision after exploring a wide variety of alternatives during the past week, according to the person who spoke to The Associated Press. The person didn't want to be identified because the reasons for Yahoo's rebuff won't be officially spelled out until Monday morning.

Microsoft and Yahoo declined to comment Saturday on the decision, first reported by The Wall Street Journal on its Web site.

Yahoo's board concluded Microsoft's offer is inadequate even though the company couldn't find any other potential bidders willing to offer a higher price.

Without other suitors on the horizon, Yahoo has had little choice but to turn a cold shoulder toward Microsoft if the board hopes to fulfill its responsibility to fetch the highest price possible for the company, said technology investment banker Ken Marlin.

"You would expect Yahoo's board to reject Microsoft at first," Marlin said. "If they didn't, they would be accused of malfeasance."

But by spurning Microsoft, Yahoo risks further alienating shareholders already upset about management missteps that have led to five consecutive quarters of declining profits.

The downturn caused Yahoo's stock price to plummet by more than 40 percent, erasing about $20 billion in shareholder wealth, in the three months leading up to Microsoft's bid.

Seizing on an opportunity to expand its clout on the Internet, Microsoft dangled a takeover offer that was 62 percent above Yahoo's stock price of just $19.18 when the bid was announced Feb. 1. Yahoo shares ended the past week at $29.20.

Led by company co-founder and board member Jerry Yang, Yahoo now will be under intense pressure to lay out a strategy that will prevent its stock price from collapsing again. What's more, Yang and the rest of the management team must convince Wall Street that they can boost Yahoo's market value beyond Microsoft's offer.

Yahoo's shares traded at $31 as recently as November, but have eroded steadily amid concerns about the slowing economy and frustration with the slow pace of a turnaround that Yang promised last June when he replaced former movie studio mogul Terry Semel as Yahoo's chief executive officer.

This isn't the first time that Yahoo has spurned Microsoft. The Redmond, Wash.-based company offered $40 per share to buy Yahoo a year ago only to be shooed away by Semel, according to a person familiar with the matter. The person didn't want to be identified because that bid was never made public.

Yahoo now may want that Microsoft to raise its price to at least $40 per share again. That would force Microsoft to raise its current offer by about $12 billion -- a high price that might alarm its own shareholders.

Microsoft's stock price already has slid 12 percent since the company announced its Yahoo bid, reflecting concerns about the deal bogging down amid potential management distractions, sagging employee morale and other headaches that frequently arise when two big companies are combined.

Although it isn't involved directly in the deal, Google is the main reason Yahoo is being pursued by Microsoft.

Yahoo has struggled largely because it hasn't been able to target online ads as effectively as Google.

Microsoft believes Yahoo's brand, engineers, audience and services will provide the company with valuable weapons in its so far unsuccessful attempt to narrow Google's huge lead in the lucrative Internet search and advertising markets.

As it examined ways to thwart Microsoft, Yahoo considered an advertising partnership with Google -- an alliance long favored by analysts who believe it would boost the profits of both companies. It was unclear Saturday if Yahoo's plans for boosting its stock price include a Google partnership, which would probably face antitrust issues.

A Microsoft takeover of Yahoo would also be scrutinized by antitrust regulators in the United States and Europe. The antitrust uncertainties could be cited as one of the reasons that Yahoo's board decided to spurn Microsoft.

Varekai
09 Feb 2008, 11:45 PM
There's some real genius being displayed on the "Microsoft, keep your grubby hands off flickr" photo pool. Too bad it probably won't make a difference in the long run. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2012/2251985507_0e10a1a16f_o.jpg
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Docta
10 Feb 2008, 06:54 AM
denied!

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DaHood
10 Feb 2008, 12:53 PM
Thank God. Microsoft is already too huge.

Marlowe
09 Apr 2008, 10:55 PM
woah, this story is becoming really interesting. (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/10/technology/10google.html?_r=2&ref=business&oref=slogin&oref=slogin) Yahoo is in talks with time warner to spin AOL off so it can merge with Yahoo. and now, apparently microsoft and news corp are in discussions to jointly bid for yahoo and have a massive media collaboration. that's super interesting and whatever happens the landscape of the web is definitely gonna be shaken-up.

the happy prole
09 Apr 2008, 11:12 PM
You may be onto something M...

ETA: I use google precisely because there's no crap all over the place. The main page is basic and straightforward. The search results pages make sense. There are sponsored links, but they don't look like ads, so they don't distract / annoy me. Unless Microhoo can make it even simpler they'll always fall short.

How long can Google hold the line, though? The stock price is insane on not a whole lot of tangible profits and sooner or later someone's going to actually demand they do something. Being morally and technically cool only gets you so far.

If Google crosses over to the dark side, they have soooo much info. on their users it could be really, really bad.

the-dude
10 Apr 2008, 12:40 PM
The stock price is insane on not a whole lot of tangible profits and sooner or later someone's going to actually demand they do something. Being morally and technically cool only gets you so far.
Google has a better price per earnings than yahoo backwards and forwards. Their stock price is only "insane" because they havent been splitting their shares.

silentpaul
10 Apr 2008, 01:50 PM
How long can Google hold the line, though? The stock price is insane on not a whole lot of tangible profits and sooner or later someone's going to actually demand they do something. Being morally and technically cool only gets you so far.

Maybe. All I know is that whenever I check out Yahoo or MSN.com the page is littered with not-quite-but-almost-spam, and only once in a great while am I interested in something I see there.

It's like they're using a sawed-off shotgun: They're bound to hit something.

Or a broken clock being right twice a day.

Google is just a better mouse trap.

Orville Wrong
12 Apr 2008, 08:29 PM
I offered a Salvadoran grocer $1.45 for Yoo-hoo.

He declined.

frizgolf
12 Apr 2008, 10:19 PM
I offered a Salvadoran grocer $1.45 for Yoo-hoo.

He declined.

Fuck Yoo-hoo. I want my Choc-ola back.

Marlowe
03 May 2008, 08:32 PM
this just in... microsoft withdraws its bid for yahoo. (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/technology/04soft.html?hp)

it'll be interesting to see what happens to the respective stock prices. yahoo was trading in the $19 range before the bid, and since then has been trading in the $29-30 range. MS, otoh, was trading at around $35-36 and has been in the $29-30 range since the bid went public.

any predictions on monday's closing prices for both?

what happens to yahoo next will be really interesting. will they really pursue this search-ad outsourcing deal with google? it would be positioned as a non-exclusive pact in order to clear regulatory hurdles, but i still wonder if that would 'really' pass muster given google's ad-dominance. and even if it does get approved, i think that such a deal would be the long-term death-knell for yahoo. they will increase revenue in the short term, but in the long run that spells doom for their thriving as an innovative big player in the tech world.

Ambassador V3.0
03 May 2008, 08:46 PM
Fuck Yoo-hoo. I want my Choc-ola back.

Damn straight. That Choc-ola was exceptional.

frizgolf
03 May 2008, 09:34 PM
Damn straight. That Choc-ola was exceptional.

Is it even made any more?

Ambassador V3.0
03 May 2008, 09:48 PM
Is it even made any more?

Not to my knowledge. I used to get 10 oz. bottles of it, all the way from Rising Sun, IN to Nashville, TN, to Kent, IN, to Louisville, KY. "Tradin' in my soda bottles, down at the country store...":cool::)

classicgrrl
03 May 2008, 09:52 PM
this just in... microsoft withdraws its bid for yahoo. (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/technology/04soft.html?hp)

it'll be interesting to see what happens to the respective stock prices. yahoo was trading in the $19 range before the bid, and since then has been trading in the $29-30 range. MS, otoh, was trading at around $35-36 and has been in the $29-30 range since the bid went public.

any predictions on monday's closing prices for both?

what happens to yahoo next will be really interesting. will they really pursue this search-ad outsourcing deal with google? it would be positioned as a non-exclusive pact in order to clear regulatory hurdles, but i still wonder if that would 'really' pass muster given google's ad-dominance. and even if it does get approved, i think that such a deal would be the long-term death-knell for yahoo. they will increase revenue in the short term, but in the long run that spells doom for their thriving as an innovative big player in the tech world.


i would like to see yahoo and google join forces but I am leary of them getting to big for their britches as American companies are apt to do...

euro60
03 May 2008, 10:38 PM
This just proves that Microsoft really has lost the pedals all around.... (and I am glad to see it happen, frankly)

GoWest
05 May 2008, 07:26 AM
This just proves that Microsoft really has lost the pedals all around.... (and I am glad to see it happen, frankly)

I don't think so. I think in 6 months, Yahoo will be in an even worse position than it is today and MS will offer (and get) a price lower than $31 per share. Over paying on an acquisition can destroy a company.