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Angel30
12 Jul 2007, 11:35 AM
So has anybody heard of this movement (http://unity08.com/believe) ?

What We Believe
Unity08 believes that neither of today’s major parties reflects the aspirations, fears or will of the majority of Americans. Both have polarized and alienated the people. Both are unduly influenced by single-issue groups. Both are excessively dominated by money.

For most of the 20th Century, the contest for the U.S. presidency was waged over those “in the middle.” Recent Presidential elections, however, have not been focused on the middle but on the turnout of each party’s special interest groups — with each party’s “base” representing barely ten percent of the American people.

We believe that, while the leaders of both major parties are well intentioned people, they are trapped in a flawed system — and that the two major parties are today simply neither relevant to the issues and challenges of the 21st Century nor effective in addressing them.

As a result, most Americans have not been enthusiastic about the choices for President in recent elections, the key issues they ran on, or the manner in which the campaigns were conducted.

Therefore Unity08 will act to assure that an alternative ticket is presented to the American voters in 2008.

Our Goals

We have set three specific goals, and are exploring how best to achieve them.

1. Goal One is the election of a Unity Ticket for President and Vice-President of the United States in 2008 — headed by a woman and/or man from each major party or by an independent who presents a Unity Team from both parties.
2. Goal Two is for the people themselves to pick that Unity Ticket in the first half of 2008 — via a virtual and secure online convention in which all American voters will be qualified to vote.
3. Goal Three is for the delegates to that convention to select the issues which are crucial to America’s future and the questions on those crucial issues which the candidates should address fully and candidly.

The new ground broken in meeting our goals will include new choices for voters, new opportunities for candidates, and new uses of modern technology as well. In pursuing our goals, we will both follow the law in every instance and seek the opinion of the Federal Elections Commission to interpret the law where we are breaking new ground.

We are not looking to build a new and permanent party. That might happen, but our objective is to fix the old parties. A Unity Ticket in office for one term or even taking part in just one election can bring new ideas, new integrity and new leaders to the fore.

We will not waste time assessing blame. Both parties and all of us who have been active in them share responsibility for the current political morass. We hope instead to return the focus of our politics and policy to the common good — those ideas and traditions which unite and empower us as individuals and as a people.
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Discuss.

Unrequited
12 Jul 2007, 11:55 AM
We believe that, while the leaders of both major parties are well intentioned people, they are trapped in a flawed system

I reject this notion. I think the leaders of both major parties recognize the flaws in the system and take full advantage of it for personal gain. They don't give a damn about the country.

Brentmint
12 Jul 2007, 12:10 PM
We believe that, while the leaders of both major parties are well intentioned people, they are trapped in a flawed system

I agree that this statement seems a tad contradictory relative to the rest of the initiative. If a system is flawed, its components are concurrently flawed.

The problem with this iniative is its vision of phasing out government curroption through the instillment of one or two new leaders at the highest levels of government. It's an admirable ambition, because those leaders have as much of an impact as anyone on the system when they sit comfortably in the lined pockets of big business, but replacing the highest officials simply will not ensure the moral trickle-down effect these activists seem to think it will have on the rest of the government.

The system, after all, is designed to and does in fact work best (though it hasn't recently) when all levels of government work cohesively to acheive common goals. Electing Joe Everyman president won't garuntee the accomplishment of anything revolutionary; more likely just the opposite will happen and progress will be impeded by a lack of connections and willing allies inside the beltway.

Campaign finance reform and complete overhaul of the current policy on earmarking -- for which politicians are just beginning to be held accountable -- are a few of the steps that need to be taken in order to fix the system from the bottom up, not the top down.

ICONOCLAST420
12 Jul 2007, 05:40 PM
I heard of Unity '08 on another board I am on, I kind of think it is a wild-eyed pie-in-the-sky concept from a bunch of people who don't understand what they are getting themselves into.

Therefore Unity08 will act to assure that an alternative ticket is presented to the American voters in 2008.

Sure they will, easier said than done. There are third parties running candidates that are already doing this and other third parties that have crashed and burned because of ballot access issues. Tennesee is easy, get 25 petition signatures. Oklahoma is tough, it takes about 98,000 petition signatures there, Ohio and Illinois have restrictive ballot access requirements also.

I have been involved with the Libertarian Party for 16 years, and I have spent a lot of time gathering petition sigs, we already have an established membership base of 1000s of members in every state and we still have difficulty getting on the ballot in all 50 states. During that time I have seen other third parties come and go, The Natural Law Party, The Reform Party, The U.S. Taxpayers Party, The Constitution Party, The America First Party, The Green Party, etc.

If there is one thing Demopublicans and Republicrats excel at it's protecting their duopoly.

the happy prole
12 Jul 2007, 07:00 PM
I personally reject the notion that the voters are getting screwed by a flawed system. Everyone just loves pissing and moaning about the idiots they elected.

ICONOCLAST420
13 Jul 2007, 05:40 AM
Why limit the American people to a choice between tweedledum and tweedledumber?

fedsmack
13 Jul 2007, 10:25 AM
The FEDSMACK Manifesto

BE IT OBSERVED THAT A DANGEROUS HAZE OF IGNORANCE AND COMPLACENCY HAS BEFALLEN SOCIETY. Be it observed, the status quo lacks the proper implementation of a functioning anti-system. Be it observed, the current SYSTEM has placed its oppressive hand over the heads of every man, woman and child on this great planet.

Having observed the above, we make the following decrees:

1. We shall strive to ADVANCE excess in thought and action. Too much is better than not enough; and if there is too much, there will be some left over for others. we shall push against the boundaries of whatever RULES BURDEN US, forcing BOUNDARIES to the point of rupture. Perhaps then, excess will ooze from limitation, spilling over to the masses.

2. We call for an embracement of all ideas AND We demand an end to the senseless rejection of all theories or notions merely because they make no sense. The present deficiency of human thought poses a dire threat to our progress. All IDEALS should not merely be accepted, but should serve as battle hymns for our idealistic struggles.

3. We must not fight 'them' but rather ourselves. For we are the enemy within, awaiting our opportunity to destroy all that we create.

4. We shall act and react without regard to reason or rationality, for such notions may only be applied in retrospect and only in the context of where the State of Morality lay at a given point. Action is without moral implication, and its subsequent judgment is forever subject to re-evaluation.

5. We call for equality in society in the form of egalitarian suffering. Pain, not pleasure, builds better character AND all persons must suffer EQUALLY throughout their life span. Wealth and luxury shall not be taken into consideration. No attempt shall be made to disseminate WEALTH AND GOODS equally.

6. We call for the release of our imprisoned BROTHERS AND SISTERS– whoever they may be.

7. We must abolish the FCC, Network Television, CLEAR CHANNEL, and every interference by the State in art and literature.

8. We shall feel obliged to imbibe ourselves in excessive amounts of intoxicating liquids AND SUBSTANCES IN ORDER To FORCE NEW PERSPECTIVES AND ELIMINATE the stress from leading a revolutionary movement such as this one.

“History is for pissing on”
– Malcolm McLaren