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markalot
01 Jul 2007, 08:19 PM
Roswell aliens theory revived by deathbed confession

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21994224-2,00.html

From correspondents in Washington
July 01, 2007 12:30am

EXACTLY 60 years ago, a light aircraft was flying over the Cascade Mountains in Washington State, at a height of around 3000m.

Suddenly, a brilliant flash of light illuminated the aircraft.

Visibility was good and as pilot Kenneth Arnold scanned the sky to find the source of the light, he saw a group of nine shiny metallic objects flying information.

He estimated their speed as being around 2600km/h - nearly three times faster than the top speed of any jet aircraft at the time.

Soon, similar reports began to come in from all over America.

This wasn't just the world's first UFO sighting, this was the birth of a phenomenon, one that still exercises an extraordinary fascination.

Military authorities issued a press release, which began: "The many rumours regarding the flying disc became a reality yesterday when the intelligence officer of the 509th Bomb Group of the Eighth Air Force, Roswell Army Air Field, was fortunate enough to gain possession of a disc."

The headlines screamed: "Flying Disc captured by Air Force".

Yet, just 24 hours later, the military changed their story and claimed the object they'd first thought was a "flying disc" was a weather balloon that had crashed on a nearby ranch.

The key witness was Major Jesse Marcel, the intelligence officer who had gone to the ranch to recover the wreckage.

He described the metal as being wafer thin but incredibly tough.

It was as light as balsa wood, but couldn't be cut or burned.

These and similar accounts of the incident have largely been dismissed by all except the most dedicated believers.

Astonishing new twist

But last week came an astonishing new twist to the Roswell mystery.

Lieutenant Walter Haut was the public relations officer at the base in 1947 and was the man who issued the original and subsequent press releases after the crash on the orders of the base commander, Colonel William Blanchard.

Haut died last year but left a sworn affidavit to be opened only after his death.

Last week, the text was released and asserts that the weather balloon claim was a cover story and that the real object had been recovered by the military and stored in a hangar.

He described seeing not just the craft, but alien bodies.

He wasn't the first Roswell witness to talk about alien bodies.

Local undertaker Glenn Dennis had long claimed that he was contacted by authorities at Roswell shortly after the crash and asked to provide a number of child-sized coffins.

When he arrived at the base, he was apparently told by a nurse (who later disappeared) that a UFO had crashed and that small humanoid extraterrestrials had been recovered.

But Haut is the only one of the original participants to claim to have seen alien bodies.

UFO pieces handed around

Haut's affidavit talks about a high-level meeting he attended with base commander Col William Blanchard and the Commander of the Eighth Army Air Force, General Roger Ramey.

Haut states that at this meeting, pieces of wreckage were handed around for participants to touch, with nobody able to identify the material.

He says the press release was issued because locals were already aware of the crash site, but in fact there had been a second crash site, where more debris from the craft had fallen.

The plan was that an announcement acknowledging the first site, which had been discovered by a farmer, would divert attention from the second and more important location.

The clean-up operation

Haut also spoke about a clean-up operation, where for months afterwards military personnel scoured both crash sites searching for all remaining pieces of debris, removing them and erasing all signs that anything unusual had occurred.

This ties in with claims made by locals that debris collected as souvenirs was seized by the military.

Haut then tells how Colonel Blanchard took him to "Building 84" - one of the hangars at Roswell - and showed him the craft itself.

He describes a metallic egg-shaped object around 3.6m-4.5m in length and around 1.8m wide.

He said he saw no windows, wings, tail, landing gear or any other feature.

Haug 'saw the alien bodies'

He saw two bodies on the floor, partially covered by a tarpaulin.

They are described in his statement as about 1.2m tall, with disproportionately large heads.

Towards the end of the affidavit, Haut concludes: "I am convinced that what I personally observed was some kind of craft and its crew from outer space".

What's particularly interesting about Walter Haut is that in the many interviews he gave before his death, he played down his role and made no such claims.

Had he been seeking publicity, he would surely have spoken about the craft and the bodies.

Did he fear ridicule, or was the affidavit a sort of deathbed confession from someone who had been part of a cover-up, but who had stayed loyal to the end?

The US government came under huge pressure on Roswell in the '90s.

In July 1994, in response to an inquiry from the General Accounting Office, the Office of the Secretary of the Air Force published a report, The Roswell Report: Fact Versus Fiction In The New Mexico Desert.

Weather balloon 'cover story'

The report concluded that the Roswell incident had been attributable to something called Project Mogul, a top secret project using high-altitude balloons to carry sensor equipment into the upper atmosphere, listening forevidence of Soviet nuclear tests.

The statements concerning a crashed weather balloon had been a cover story, they admitted, but not to hide the truth about extraterrestrials.

A second US Air Force report concluded claims bodies were recovered were generated by people having seen crash test dummies that were dropped from the balloons.

Sceptics, of course, will dismiss the testimony left by Haut.

After all, fascinating though it is, it's just a story. There's no proof.

But if nothing else, this latest revelation shows that, 60 years on, this mystery endures.

frizgolf
01 Jul 2007, 08:27 PM
But if nothing else, this latest revelation shows that, 60 years on, this mystery endures.
Where there's smoke, there's fire.
This story just won't go away.

Homsar
01 Jul 2007, 10:14 PM
As unbelievably unlikely it is for there to be aliens like that, it would still be pretty neat to meet them.

Brentmint
01 Jul 2007, 11:06 PM
Eddie Izzard does a great bit about humanity's need for the monotony-breaking excitment that aliens would bring, and it's totally true. We've been waiting so long! Books and movies and television all about aliens, but not one single green man has actually showed up. Not even a "squirrel with a flute," as Eddie says.

Unrequited
02 Jul 2007, 10:08 AM
I've always thought there was something to this story. Let's face it, the only people who are crazier and more deluded than UFO fanatics are in the military leadership.

BigSugar
02 Jul 2007, 10:09 AM
maybe they're waiting for immigration reform?

Sushi
02 Jul 2007, 10:11 AM
We've been waiting so long! Books and movies and television all about aliens, but not one single green man has actually showed up.
With people like Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie looked at as role models and music like My Humps on the charts, can you blame them for avoiding us?

dannyboy
02 Jul 2007, 10:37 AM
I think that the alien story is a cover for top secret military research. The public would be more fascinated by aliens than new super weapons so it makes for a great diversion.

skidminix
02 Jul 2007, 10:50 AM
http://omega.enstb.org/yannis/cours/isi431/i-want-to-believe.jpg

akip
02 Jul 2007, 11:27 AM
can you blame them for avoiding us?

i heard about people in new mexico who actually built landing pads for spaceships on their estates but still nobody comes to visit. but maybe nobody wants to.

somebody else i knew there swears they come down sometimes and check him out.

classicgrrl
02 Jul 2007, 11:32 AM
If I were an alien, I'm not so sure I'd want to come here.

drougan
02 Jul 2007, 11:33 AM
I think that the alien story is a cover for top secret military research. The public would be more fascinated by aliens than new super weapons so it makes for a great diversion.


Well, at that point (1947) the Russians were developing and building their own nuclear weapons arsenal (their first detonation was 1949 apparently), so I would think there was enough latent Red Scare in people that American Superweaponry would probably go over as welcomed then as an alternative to gasoline would today. I suspect that if it were weaponry that a)They were really just worried about the Russians finding out, and aliens makes a good diversion, or that b)They were working on some stuff that they just didn't want the public to know about because the public wouldn't be terribly happy about it.

teribl sob stry
02 Jul 2007, 11:39 AM
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b255/caseyrocksyourworld/iwantobelieve.jpg

indigobunting
02 Jul 2007, 11:40 AM
That's just too freakin' creepy.

drougan
02 Jul 2007, 11:45 AM
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b255/caseyrocksyourworld/iwantobelieve.jpg

I'm shocked to see that it took 49 minutes for that picture to appear. ;)

Sushi
02 Jul 2007, 11:56 AM
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b255/caseyrocksyourworld/iwantobelieve.jpg
Thank you. I didn't have the heart or the time to go searching for that.

the_birds
02 Jul 2007, 12:04 PM
The point is as follows, if the universe is truly infinite, then, there are certainly other intelligent life forms, both more and less intelligent than us. And there are certainly ones capable of interstellar travel.

The only thing in question is... have those life forms visited Earth?

markalot
02 Jul 2007, 12:35 PM
The point is as follows, if the universe is truly infinite, then, there are certainly other intelligent life forms, both more and less intelligent than us. And there are certainly ones capable of interstellar travel.

The only thing in question is... have those life forms visited Earth?

And why did their technology suddenly fail and result in a crash landing in New Mexico. Budget issues?

the_birds
02 Jul 2007, 12:38 PM
And why did their technology suddenly fail and result in a crash landing in New Mexico. Budget issues?

It was this crash that made their conservatives slash their budgets and prevented a return to Earth. :p

REMgirl
02 Jul 2007, 03:11 PM
And why did their technology suddenly fail and result in a crash landing in New Mexico. Budget issues?

They ran out of ethanol, silly! They were buzzing down here to load up on corn. :p

akip
02 Jul 2007, 03:19 PM
They ran out of ethanol, silly! They were buzzing down here to load up on corn. :p

yeah, right. the famous corn fields of new mexico.

you midwesterners. :D

REMgirl
02 Jul 2007, 04:14 PM
Akip! I didn't say they intended to GET corn from New Mexico, did I? They crashed on the way to Iowa! ;)

Remember the crop circles in "Signs"? Just checking out the corn...

frizgolf
02 Jul 2007, 04:31 PM
I think that the alien story is a cover for top secret military research. The public would be more fascinated by aliens than new super weapons so it makes for a great diversion.
After hearing Foofur describe the flight of one aircraft over Wright-Patterson the other night, I can only wonder what people think when they see these experimental aircraft on test flights.

wileE
03 Jul 2007, 11:48 AM
I was reading about this on slashdot. Apparently, the guy owned/operated an Alien museum in Roswell. Seems like a publicity stunt.

Slar
03 Jul 2007, 11:56 AM
Seems like a publicity stunt.This seems the most likely case to me as well. Let's examine the possibilities again:

1. Aliens from another world visited this planet undetected, but crashed in the New Mexico desert (instead of the ocean which covers most of our planet). This crash has been systematically covered up by our otherwise inept government for the last 70+ years.

2. Somebody made it up to get attention or money. Or was just really confused (New Mexico is a red state).

Why can I never find my Occam's Razor when I need it?

akip
03 Jul 2007, 12:29 PM
I was reading about this on slashdot. Apparently, the guy owned/operated an Alien museum in Roswell. Seems like a publicity stunt.

i've been to this museum and it's pretty lame.

zimbo
03 Jul 2007, 01:06 PM
All hearsay still. Same old same old. Let's see a chunk of the metal or an alien finger, a clear photo, ANYTHING, even a paper from the huge paper trail that something like this would have created in a military or government organization. So far, zero physical evidence has been produced for this sighting or any other sighting. Are there unexplained things that happen in the sky? Sure. It doesn't mean they are aliens from another planet. However as Carl Sagan said "if it's just only us, what an awful waste of space it is!"

Did you know it was only in 1979 or so when anybody really paid any attention to Roswell when a UFO researcher found one of the witnesses? Suddenly others started coming forward and giving more "details" that were not reported initially. The whole things a sham. Are we to believe that a vehicle of balsa wood and mylar transported an alien species to this planet and then crashed in the middle of nowhere? Shows like the X-Files (which I loved BTW) just perpetuated many myths that surround this incident. Kind of like the movie JFK did for the Kennedy Assassination, but don't get me started on that. Most people have never bothered to look at the real facts.

Basically I think that humans just think they are all important and special. At one time it was taught that Earth was the center of the universe. We must be
because we were God's great creation! Now that we know how big the Universe really is and how minute human civilization is comparatively, we have to think we are so important and interesting that aliens want to observe us. We just have to be the center of attention.