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epeolatry
12 Feb 2007, 10:30 AM
Here's the story-- the gist of it is that a police officer jerked off on a stripper he was stalking and had pulled over...he was found not guilty. (http://www.ocweekly.com/news/news/illegally-park-ed/26661/)
Sushi
12 Feb 2007, 10:35 AM
Geez Lou-freaking-ise.
My favorite quote ("he" being the cop's attorney): " He accused her of purposefully “weakening” Park so that he became “a man,” not a cop during the traffic stop."
WTF?
This is one of the most digusting abuses of power I've heard about in a long time.
miami2112
12 Feb 2007, 10:39 AM
hmm. is the guy who was posing as jmbt a cop in irvine?
silentpaul
12 Feb 2007, 10:45 AM
Profoundly disturbing (and disgusting)...
gwar469
12 Feb 2007, 10:46 AM
Here's the story-- the gist of it is that a police officer jerked off on a stripper he was stalking and had pulled over...he was found not guilty. (http://www.ocweekly.com/news/news/illegally-park-ed/26661/)
don't you mean "jizz" instead of "gist"? :confused:
drougan
12 Feb 2007, 10:50 AM
Now there's an officer who knows how to keep his weapon loaded.
gwar469
12 Feb 2007, 10:57 AM
i wonder if he would have been dishonorably discharged from the force
silentpaul
12 Feb 2007, 10:59 AM
Now there's an officer who knows how to keep his weapon loaded.
But isn't the problem he discharged his weapon inappropriately?
[I find this story repulsive, yet I can't help but run with the jokes. WTF's wrong with me?]
Seattle93
12 Feb 2007, 11:09 AM
i wonder...
let's say officer foxypants of irvine, ca pulls my car over in a secluded area and begins rubbing against me.
http://www.costume-shop.com/images/products/ra1259.jpg
she weakens me...
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/27963/2/istockphoto_27963_determined_sperm.jpg
i get arrested
http://z.about.com/d/crime/1/0/v/7/reubenspaul.jpg
i have to go to court
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/2/2c/250px-Night_court_logo.jpg
will the same defense hold up in my case?
http://www.cnn.com/US/9807/29/oj.house.gone.02/link.oj.jpg
Breeze
12 Feb 2007, 11:15 AM
Profoundly disturbing (and disgusting)...
I concur with this.
Not so much with the jokes.
gwar469
12 Feb 2007, 11:19 AM
LA Cops and court system. why does this even surprise people anymore? :confused: it's more about show than anything legal or judicial.
epeolatry
12 Feb 2007, 11:21 AM
don't you mean "jizz" instead of "gist"? :confused:
i knew that was coming...
markalot
12 Feb 2007, 11:22 AM
In the wee hours of Dec. 15, 2004, Lucy (only her first name was used during the trial) finished her final shift at Captain Cream in Lake Forest, not far from the Irvine Spectrum. Management had let her go after an incident involving a female customer in a bathroom stall. According to court records, there had been a small amount of cocaine, kissing and breast fondling.
Good grief. So she finished her shift or they let her go, which one? This has to be a joke.
purple_octopus
12 Feb 2007, 11:25 AM
I can't believe he got off.
epeolatry
12 Feb 2007, 11:31 AM
I can't believe he got off.
touche. pun intended?
purple_octopus
12 Feb 2007, 11:32 AM
touche. pun intended?
Yes, it was intended. But I am genuinely disgusted by this story.
epeolatry
12 Feb 2007, 11:33 AM
yea, it's repugnant. the whole thing.
ICONOCLAST420
12 Feb 2007, 11:41 AM
Power corrupts.
silentpaul
12 Feb 2007, 11:41 AM
Last week I felt the need to apologize for the behavior of fellow christians...
This week I feel the need to apologize for the behavior of fellow men. WTF goes through a guy's head that this is a good idea? That it's acceptable? Is he that confident he won't get in trouble? How degenerate does a person have to be for their morality to be determined by whether or not they get caught and/or punished? Is he so self-centered that women really are just objects to him?
skidminix
12 Feb 2007, 11:42 AM
Is anyone else picturing this officer as Harvey Keitel?
juggles
12 Feb 2007, 11:58 AM
You know, stepping back from the outrage and disgust, this seems like it'd be a tough case to prosecute. It's basically a "he said, she said" situation, and the she has just been let go from her job at a strip club over an incident involving drugs. It'd be hard to come up with a witness with more questionable credibility.
Don't miss understand me. This guy's actions are clearly sick and wrong and I don't want to be seen as defending him. The article doesn't say, but he presumably lost his job over it and she may still be able to go after him in civil court. But when you get into proof beyond a reasonable doubt that he committed a crime, that's a little tougher.
Duemellon
12 Feb 2007, 12:37 PM
You know, stepping back from the outrage and disgust, this seems like it'd be a tough case to prosecute. It's basically a "he said, she said" situation, and the she has just been let go from her job at a strip club over an incident involving drugs. It'd be hard to come up with a witness with more questionable credibility.
Don't miss understand me. This guy's actions are clearly sick and wrong and I don't want to be seen as defending him. The article doesn't say, but he presumably lost his job over it and she may still be able to go after him in civil court. But when you get into proof beyond a reasonable doubt that he committed a crime, that's a little tougher.Idunno, when was the last time some guy accidentally came on you in a public place? I mean, just a random "skeet skeet" with no control on their part? Like, u'kno, the way some people spit when the talk or their eye twitches... except... the penis comes out of the pants & is pointed right at you?
Oh well, he does have one point:She's a stripper, it's her job to want sex all of the time & be solely viewed as a sexual tool/object even including when she's off the clockAfter all, studies have proven that strippers are indiscriminately promiscuous, and with all that she does for a living? She was asking for it.
Yep. That last bit about her "asking/deserving" it is totally sarc. I don't care if she was a stripper, porn star or hooker!
DaHood
12 Feb 2007, 12:46 PM
I wonder how many people he has shot in his career. Yes, 'shot'. bwahahaaa
Shlep
12 Feb 2007, 01:00 PM
You know, the news is getting so ridiculous that shows satirizing it are beginning to seem wholly redundant to me.
Some real gems in this article:
In the public seating section, tears flowed from his gray-haired mother’s face.
Yeah, if I was on trial spooging on some lady who definately was not my wife, I'd want my mom in the courtroom hearing every detail of it.
His father, a mechanic, closed his eyes and threw his head back.
Oh, sweet merciful Christ, not him *TOO*!!
Was there a fellow stripper there giving her friend moral support, and if she was, was she seated in front of the elder Mr. Park?
"Hey what's that on the back of your shirt?"
"I dunno...hey!! AWWWWW, EEWWWWWWW!!!"
Outside the courtroom, surrounded by his family, a smiling Park said he felt vindicated.
"I feel vindicated. But this isn't just about me, it's about every guy out there who wants to stalk a woman and dump baby batter on her...in a way, they've won too!"
Veteran sex crimes prosecutor Shaddi Kamiabipour...
"...whose name being bungled by the court bailiff was a frequent source of amusement that lent a not of levity to the otherwise austere proceedings..."
“Park didn’t pick a housewife or a 17-year-old girl,” Kamiabipour said in her closing argument. “He picked a stripper. He picked the perfect victim.”
Ah, so that's how it works...better write this down. **scribble, scribble**
In the wee hours of Dec. 15, 2004, Lucy (only her first name was used during the trial) finished her final shift at Captain Cream in Lake Forest...
"Little did she know, the night was far from over. For lurking in the shadows, waiting for his moment, was Officer Spunk..."
Management had let her go after an incident involving a female customer in a bathroom stall. According to court records, there had been a small amount of cocaine, kissing and breast fondling.
"This, in addition to a detailed description of the incident in the bathroom stall, caused a number of jurors, the court stenographer, and visitors seated in the room to become visibly agitated. The presiding judge was soon obliged to order Officer Park to keep his hands away from his groin area, telling him he's have the bailiff handcuff him is need be."
On the witness stand, Park explained that he’d called Lucy out of concern for a citizen’s safety. He also shrugged his shoulders when Kamiabipour slowly listed the first names of nine Captain Cream female employees—Annette, Denise, Rashele, Marlia, Brandi, Andrea, Deborah, Laura and Shannon—whose license plates he’d run through the DMV computer in the weeks prior to his sexual encounter with Lucy.
Whoa...nine strippers and only one with a name ending in "i", and not a single "Tiffani," "Misiti," or "Angel"? What the hell kinda tit bar is this?
Park, who works in construction nowadays...
Ladies, if you think it'd awful when the hardhats hoot and catcall at you as you walk past the jobsite, wait'll you get a load of what Dave Park has for ya...and I do mean "load."
Kamiabipour believed she’d caught the 6-foot-3 cop in a lie.
"He was, as she went on to demonstrate, 6-foot-2 and a half."
Records show he ran the bosomy, 5-foot, 110-pound dancer’s license plate before the stop...
Interesting turn of phrase in a news story about a miscarriage of justice involving a woman being sexually objectified.
"Records show he ran the bosomy, 5-foot, 110-pound dancer’s license plate before the stop, finding the the lithe, taut-bodied woman had racked up several major traffic violations, enough so that the firm-buttocked little vixen had her license suspended, making it illegal for her creamy thighs and smooth, round little bottom to so much as touch a car seat while her slender, soft hands caressed the steering wheel...oh, damn, now *I* have gone and done it too!"
...did not call for backup despite the potential for an arrest...
"...something which spawned outrage among his fellow officers who accused him of holding out on them..."
Telephone records prove that Park made a 19-minute call to Lucy shortly after their encounter. The officer—who told the woman he was “Joe Stephens,” an Orange County Sheriff’s Department deputy who had died months earlier—said it was a friendly call to make sure she’d arrived home safely.
Most cops would just molest a female motorist, spray his tadpoles on her, and leave it at that. But Officer Park went the extra mile and followed up with her personally to make sure she was okay. It's that kind of personal touch that is all too rare nowadays in community policing.
miami2112
12 Feb 2007, 01:02 PM
does he have a history of going off all half cocked like that?
silentpaul
12 Feb 2007, 01:07 PM
Did this happen on his beat?
the happy prole
12 Feb 2007, 01:19 PM
You know, stepping back from the outrage and disgust, this seems like it'd be a tough case to prosecute. It's basically a "he said, she said" situation, and the she has just been let go from her job at a strip club over an incident involving drugs. It'd be hard to come up with a witness with more questionable credibility.
How about the cop?
juggles
12 Feb 2007, 05:44 PM
I knew I was going to catch shit for that earlier post but I think it should be clear that I'm not questioning the woman's story, just saying that her credibility would be easy to attack in court.
As for the cop's credibility, it's hard to say. The article mentions that he'd been decorated but the warning from the other cop and the suspicious GPS tracking thing makes his story rather dubious as well.
My point is that I don't find it shocking that they didn't get a conviction. My guess is that the jury walked away not knowing who to believe and that left them enough doubt for the cop to get off (pun intended).
And furthermore, since I didn't sit in the courtroom and hear all the testimony and can only base my opinion on a couple-hundred word article, I don't feel justified in second-guessing the jury.
DaHood
12 Feb 2007, 05:59 PM
I thought you were supposed to stroke the witness. :confused:
Shlep
12 Feb 2007, 06:11 PM
Well, some people refer to whacking it as "roughing up the suspect." Maybe he got confused.
frizgolf
12 Feb 2007, 06:57 PM
Is that any way for a pubic servant to act?
DaHood
12 Feb 2007, 06:58 PM
Is that any way for a pubic servant to act?
Yes.
:p
frizgolf
12 Feb 2007, 07:38 PM
Yes.
:p
Ah, you caught the intentional misprint. ;)
I loves me some bad puns. I was reading this thread at work, champing at the bit. Dozens of bad puns came and went, but y'all used 'em already.
dannyboy
12 Feb 2007, 07:39 PM
Such a sticky situation.
frizgolf
12 Feb 2007, 07:41 PM
Yep, he dodged the evils of the penile system.
the happy prole
12 Feb 2007, 08:00 PM
I knew I was going to catch shit for that earlier post but I think it should be clear that I'm not questioning the woman's story, just saying that her credibility would be easy to attack in court.
I'm not giving you shit necessarily, I just think the cop is much less credible than the woman. We know she does blow, fondles women, and was fired. Two of those aren't illegal and none of them is necessarily indicative of her being a liar.
OTOH, we know the cop has been hanging out at the strip club, that other people knew and had warned him, that he'd run nine other stripper tags. We also know he called this women up for a date, and we know he unplugged his GPS, didn't notify his superiors where he was, and didn't call for backup.
I really have a hard time believing that what happened was "coincidence." Now maybe he still has an out in that once he pulled her over, they mutually decided (badge, cop car and speeding violation notwithstanding) they hey, you can jerk off on me because I dig that.
So he has the less believable story to begin with, plus we pretty much know he's lying about the specific facts in the case because there's no way their meeting was sheer coincidence. We don't have any reason to think she's lying other than maybe character issues, which shouldn't have nearly the same weight (or be considered at all).
About the only thing we have to question about her is maybe "Hey, she's looking for money here." But the civil suit was settled BEFORE the criminal trial so she's not getting any more money out of it, nor can she be forced to give it back. And if we're going to read between the lines, I think the fact that the Department sounds like it couldn't wait to settle the case and fire him makes it look pretty bad.
I dunno, the story reads a bit slanted so maybe they left out some stuff she lied about concerning the case. If all that is true I doubt I would have settled so quickly for $400k. But given what's in that article, there's no way a jury should side with him over her. Either the attorney screwed up or the jury's that awful. I'm pretty sure that if he does this to a housewife or nineteen year old he'd be going to the slammer for a long time. And not because their testimony is more believable.
Basically it came down to "Hey, this guy's a married man and he's done some good work in the community. Do we really want to wreck his marriage, family, and general life by sending him to jail?" OTOH, the other person is a stripper who's apparently not done much in her life to better mankind and is already 400k to the good.
My favorite quote ("he" being the cop's attorney): " He accused her of purposefully “weakening” Park so that he became “a man,” not a cop during the traffic stop."
you know how women can be... all dressin sexy and askin for it. she was probably askin for it. maybe even beggin for it.
The Ugly Thief
12 Feb 2007, 08:35 PM
y0 - i don't even want to hear any sadness for this slut. THE GIRL MADE $400K JUST BY HAVING THIS LOSER CUM ON HER LAP ! SHE'S LOVING LIFE !!!
v
frizgolf
12 Feb 2007, 08:45 PM
y0 - i don't even want to hear any sadness for this slut. THE GIRL MADE $400K JUST BY HAVING THIS LOSER CUM ON HER LAP ! SHE'S LOVING LIFE !!!
v
Dude, I don't agree with you enough, but this is spot on!
Apologies for yet another bad joke...
classicgrrl
12 Feb 2007, 09:39 PM
I wonder how many people he has shot in his career. Yes, 'shot'. bwahahaaa
I seriously tried not laugh...really...but it just wasn't in the cards. :D
classicgrrl
12 Feb 2007, 09:42 PM
Geez Lou-freaking-ise.
My favorite quote ("he" being the cop's attorney): " He accused her of purposefully “weakening” Park so that he became “a man,” not a cop during the traffic stop."
WTF?
This is one of the most digusting abuses of power I've heard about in a long time.
I wish I had the power to "purposely weaken' people. :rolleyes:
purple_octopus
12 Feb 2007, 09:42 PM
I wish I had the power to "purposely weaken' people. :rolleyes:
You do... you're an ENTJ, aren't you?
the happy prole
12 Feb 2007, 09:55 PM
y0 - i don't even want to hear any sadness for this slut. THE GIRL MADE $400K JUST BY HAVING THIS LOSER CUM ON HER LAP ! SHE'S LOVING LIFE !!!
v
That's not the point of a criminal prosecution.
DaHood
12 Feb 2007, 09:58 PM
That's not the point of a criminal prosecution.
And posts like this are not the point of this thread. Get with it or get out!!!
:p
frizgolf
12 Feb 2007, 10:07 PM
DaHood, you just want more dick jokes! :p
I like THP. I'm sure you're just poking fun, though. ;)
DaHood
12 Feb 2007, 10:09 PM
DaHood, you just want more dick jokes!
But of course!! This is a pun thread. Once we have invaded there is no turning back! :cool:
The gauntlet has been thrown. THP has his chance. :cool:
:p
The gauntlet has been thrown.
or the wad has been shot...
or the...
the happy prole
12 Feb 2007, 10:42 PM
Sorry, dude. I'm just not real good with the punny messages. I thought I'd get a pencil and some scrap paper to practice before I posted, but everytime I wrote one and I'd have to rub one out.
DaHood
12 Feb 2007, 11:37 PM
Sorry, dude. I'm just not real good with the punny messages. I thought I'd get a pencil and some scrap paper to practice before I posted, but everytime I wrote one and I'd have to rub one out.
:::RIMSHOT:::
classicgrrl
13 Feb 2007, 12:16 AM
You do... you're an ENTJ, aren't you?
well yes, but thats not quite what I meant. :o
classicgrrl
13 Feb 2007, 12:17 AM
:::RIMSHOT:::
:::HIHAT:::
the happy prole
13 Feb 2007, 12:33 AM
Day-um, P_O nailed that one. Maybe the Meyers-Brigg isn't as useless as I thought. Or maybe we should just let P_O screen all potential WOXY messageboarders as she's proven to be quite perceptive on several occasions.
Shlep
13 Feb 2007, 03:09 AM
My favorite quote ("he" being the cop's attorney): " He accused her of purposefully "weakening" Park so that he became "a man," not a cop during the traffic stop."
I wish I had the power to "purposely weaken' people. :rolleyes:
Yeah, that'd be quite a gift. The stripper who go spooged on appears to have it; she must, since the cops' defense attorney said so, and he's a lawyer, and lawyers are smart.
I gather she was unaware and had it brought to her attention accidentally through a mishap; sounds like a classic superhero back story if I ever heard one.
THE ORIGINS OF STRIPPER WOMAN
Late one fateful evening, mild-mannered stripper Lucy inadvertently reduced a sworn law enforcement officer to a quivering pile of helpless horniness and lust. Suddenly aware of the awesome power at her command, she vowed to fight evil and injustice wherever it threatened to hold sway as STRIPPERWOMAN!!!
In addition to her ability to manipulate arousal levels in men, Stripperwoman also has astonishing dexterity and nimbleness honed by years of poledancing which makes here fearsom opponent (think "Daredevil," except not blind and wearing 6-inch heels and pasties)
Somerset Frisby
13 Feb 2007, 11:16 AM
Is anyone else picturing this officer as Harvey Keitel?
YES! Bad Lieutenant reference!! Nice! That was the first thing I thought of when I saw this thread.
Duemellon
13 Feb 2007, 11:41 AM
final bit is:
Woman had cop's cum on her.
Consentual or not, he did it while on duty. He should be fired & be held accountable for his gross misconduct & possible abuse of power.
After all, even if it was consetual it is an abuse of power. It makes the cop & dept vulnerable to blackmail. It creates room for exploitation. Due to the position of authority the policeman is in (& relationship regarding marriage) this makes it an abuse of power.
silentpaul
13 Feb 2007, 11:45 AM
final bit is:
Woman had cop's cum on her.
Consentual or not, he did it while on duty. He should be fired & be held accountable for his gross misconduct & possible abuse of power.
After all, even if it was consetual it is an abuse of power.
Exactly...
1979
13 Feb 2007, 11:48 AM
final bit is:
Woman had cop's cum on her.
Consentual or not, he did it while on duty. He should be fired & be held accountable for his gross misconduct & possible abuse of power.
After all, even if it was consetual it is an abuse of power. It makes the cop & dept vulnerable to blackmail. It creates room for exploitation. Due to the position of authority the policeman is in (& relationship regarding marriage) this makes it an abuse of power.
After reading the article, I think he was fired. He works in construction now.
DaHood
13 Feb 2007, 12:02 PM
After reading the article, I think he was fired. He works in construction now.
So, someone gave him another shot.
jcarwash31
13 Feb 2007, 12:03 PM
After reading the article, I think he was fired. He works in construction now.
I bet he had more fun playing with his erector set anyway.
miami2112
13 Feb 2007, 12:33 PM
he must not be the cream of the crop.
Breeze
13 Feb 2007, 12:36 PM
he must not be the cream of the crop.
But did he come out on top?
Duemellon
13 Feb 2007, 12:49 PM
After reading the article, I think he was fired. He works in construction now.The police dept's liability doesn't end when the guy was fired. Beyond that, this "not guilty" judgement didn't cite anything about corrective actions being done by the police dept, nor would it make a difference to the crime in the time it took place. This wasn't a civil lawsuit, it was a criminal charge.
The guy was being tried as a cop & individual, mostly as an individual. If he was found guilty of doing the crime, which we can all see he did, he should be convicted regardless of any corrective actions taken. A guilty verdict would open the police dept to further liability charges (possibly) but I think they can still be made a target all the same.
1979
13 Feb 2007, 12:53 PM
The police dept's liability doesn't end when the guy was fired. Beyond that, this "not guilty" judgement didn't cite anything about corrective actions being done by the police dept, nor would it make a difference to the crime in the time it took place. This wasn't a civil lawsuit, it was a criminal charge.
The guy was being tried as a cop & individual, mostly as an individual. If he was found guilty of doing the crime, which we can all see he did, he should be convicted regardless of any corrective actions taken. A guilty verdict would open the police dept to further liability charges (possibly) but I think they can still be made a target all the same.
I'm not arguing all that. Just responding to your last post where you said he should have been fired. I think he was - or at least forced to resign. That's all.
The Ugly Thief
13 Feb 2007, 01:14 PM
The police dept's liability doesn't end when the guy was fired. Beyond that, this "not guilty" judgement didn't cite anything about corrective actions being done by the police dept, nor would it make a difference to the crime in the time it took place. This wasn't a civil lawsuit, it was a criminal charge.
The guy was being tried as a cop & individual, mostly as an individual. If he was found guilty of doing the crime, which we can all see he did, he should be convicted regardless of any corrective actions taken. A guilty verdict would open the police dept to further liability charges (possibly) but I think they can still be made a target all the same.
if you put the guy in jail then he won't be able to come to the strip joint every day after getting off work @ the construction site & feel like a complete loser as he watches this lady do her pole dance
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Duemellon
13 Feb 2007, 02:02 PM
I'm not arguing all that. Just responding to your last post where you said he should have been fired. I think he was - or at least forced to resign. That's all.The reasons for his termination aren't specified.
jcarwash31
13 Feb 2007, 02:04 PM
The reasons for his termination aren't specified.
Either way, they can't fire somebody who doesn't work for them.
Macpherson
13 Feb 2007, 02:09 PM
i just hope no one has prematurely come to a conclusion.
jcarwash31
13 Feb 2007, 02:22 PM
i just hope no one has prematurely come to a conclusion.
This thread came to a climax a long time ago.
Jumbo Shrimp
13 Feb 2007, 02:26 PM
hmm. is the guy who was posing as jmbt a cop in irvine?
DAAAAMMMMMNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sarrah
13 Feb 2007, 02:31 PM
I must say, I love this thread.
Jumbo Shrimp
13 Feb 2007, 02:37 PM
After reading the article, I think he was fired. He works in construction now.
Don't you mean "cumstruction"??? :D
Jumbo Shrimp
13 Feb 2007, 02:39 PM
Now that I think about it, maybe he should work for General Motors. He could help them redisign the Cumbustable engine!
skidminix
13 Feb 2007, 02:49 PM
At first I was skeptical about this thread. Then I was intrigued. Then I got really into it. Then I lost interest suddenly.
So, I went back to Heavy Into Jeff.
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