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markalot
22 May 2006, 11:46 AM
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Canadian Environment Minister Rona Ambrose


She's hot!

So finally Canada has a government who can face facts, instead of pretending just so they get some good press.

By Jeff Mason and Alister DoyleMon May 22, 9:13 AM ET

The European Union urged Canada to respect goals for slowing global warming under the U.N.'s Kyoto Protocol on Monday as environmentalists accused Ottawa of seeking to scupper the pact.

Canada, the president of May 15-26 U.N. climate talks in Bonn, has said it cannot meet a legally binding target to cut emissions of heat-trapping gases by 2012 and that it will only take part in an extension if all nations agree.

"What I expect is that the Canadians will honor their commitments," EU Environment Commissioner Stavros Dimas told reporters in Brussels.

"The Canadian government of (Prime Minister) Stephen Harper is trying to sabotage 15 years of international efforts to address climate change," the Climate Action Network, grouping environmentalists, said in a statement.

Canada's new Conservative government says it has inherited an economy where emissions of greenhouse gases, mainly carbon dioxide from factories, power plants and cars, have already soared 35 percent above 1990 levels.

And Canadian Environment Minister Rona Ambrose said on Sunday that Canada would take on new commitments to cut emissions, mainly from burning fossil fuels, beyond 2012 only if there were a broad international consensus.

"If it includes all of our international partners, Canada will be at the table," she said, adding that any agreement might be part of Kyoto or outside the pact. The United States, the world's biggest source of emissions, is outside Kyoto.

"We are ready to work with the international community on this issue," Ambrose told CTV television in an interview. Canada accounts for 3.3 percent of emissions by industrialized nations, roughly level with Italy on 3.1 and above France on 2.7 percent.

RISING SEAS

Negotiators from 163 nations are meeting in Bonn for talks on ways to extend Kyoto beyond 2012 to help prevent what could be wrenching climate changes such as more heat waves, droughts, floods and rising sea levels.

On Saturday, Canadian newspapers reported that Ottawa had instructed Canadian negotiators saying that: "Canada will not support agreement on language in the work program that commits developed countries to more stringent targets in the future."

Ambrose said that the document had only been a draft. Canada is president of the talks after hosting a last round of U.N. negotiations in Montreal in late 2005.

Kyoto obliges rich nations to cut emissions by at least 5.2 percent below 1990 levels by 2008-12. Ambrose has said that Canada needs a break as a major energy exporter. Emissions are set to rise further as Alberta's oil deposits are exploited.

The WWF conservation group said Ambrose should either reaffirm commitment to Kyoto or renounce Canada's current presidency of the U.N. talks. Many other Kyoto countries are also struggling to reach their goals.

"Japan, Portugal and New Zealand all face challenges but are sill committed to their targets under Kyoto," said Jennifer Morgan, climate policy director of WWF. "Canada should reaffirm its commitment to reach Kyoto goals."

President George W. Bush pulled the United States out of Kyoto in 2001, saying that it would cost U.S. jobs and wrongly excluded developed nations from a first round of cuts to 2012.

"If Canada were to pull out it would leave Europe, Japan and New Zealand. It would be challenging to continue moving the negotiations forward with just these countries," said Steven Guilbeault of Greenpeace.

DaHood
22 May 2006, 11:52 AM
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She's hot!
You got that right. I'd like to undermine the hell out of her. :p

Homsar
22 May 2006, 12:03 PM
No disrespect to Canada, but the emissions of that country are almost paltry since the US isn't in Kyoto.

Slar
22 May 2006, 12:25 PM
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Canadian Environment Minister Rona AmbroseI think some other things are going to be emitted soon. There seems to be a lot of stress on that top button."If Canada were to pull out it would leave Europe, Japan and New Zealand. It would be challenging to continue moving the negotiations forward with just these countries," said Steven Guilbeault of Greenpeace.Yo Greenpeace dude! Europe isn't a country! Just thought you should know!

george
22 May 2006, 12:36 PM
No disrespect to Canada, but the emissions of that country are almost paltry since the US isn't in Kyoto.

On a total basis, you are right. On a per-person basis, I don't believe that U.S. emissions are much higher than Canada's. And when the per-capita numbers are adjusted for economic size, the U.S. is probably considerably lower than Canada.

markalot
22 May 2006, 03:05 PM
On a total basis, you are right. On a per-person basis, I don't believe that U.S. emissions are much higher than Canada's. And when the per-capita numbers are adjusted for economic size, the U.S. is probably considerably lower than Canada.

Especially considering how much bacon Canadians eat.

Motti
22 May 2006, 08:52 PM
I think some other things are going to be emitted soon. There seems to be a lot of stress on that top button.

That cracked me up. :D :D

the happy prole
22 May 2006, 10:12 PM
On a total basis, you are right. On a per-person basis, I don't believe that U.S. emissions are much higher than Canada's. And when the per-capita numbers are adjusted for economic size, the U.S. is probably considerably lower than Canada.

I just did the math. You're right that Canada is slightly higher per GDP, but it's almost so close as to be virtually a tie. We are higher per capita and it's not as close-- though there is only one country between us.

So when you combine the two to factor out GDP AND population (ie. CO2 emissions over per capita GDP or C02/GDP/population) we end up higher than Canada. Essentially it breaks down that we generate 33% more CO2 emmissions per person, but we only generate 25% more money per person.

topherd
23 May 2006, 12:10 AM
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c385/topherd/RonaAmbroseeyes.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c385/topherd/shannen_doherty_eyes.jpg

She’s got creepy Shannon Doherty Eyes.
Isn’t that a song by Kim Carns?