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The Ugly Thief
16 Feb 2006, 10:07 AM
Bunch of buzz going on about these two seperate cases which could turn out to be monumental :

source (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/healthnews.php?newsid=33558)

Andrew Stimpson, 25, tested positive for AIDS in 2002, now he tests negative, says a spokesperson for the Chelsea and Westminster Healthcare Trust, London, UK. The Healthcare Trust said he needs to come back for further tests so they can find out exactly what happened.

Doctors would like him to come back for more tests so that they can find out exactly how he cured himself.

Currently, HIV/AIDS is an incurable disease which has killed millions of people around the globe.

According to Andrew, he feels truly special and lucky.

What's different between Andrews case and some others claims in the past? The main difference is that the medical community is taking Andrew's case seriously. His initial test, when he was positive was done at a recognised, respected hospital. His latest test, where he was clear of AIDS, was done in the same hospital. Experts speculate that Andrew may be carrying the cure - it may be within his body. Perhaps his body has produced some antibody we could engineer.

The hospital that carried out the tests on Andrew were adamant that the two tests were correct and that there was no identity mix up - they carried DNA checks to make sure it was Andrew.

Written by: Christian Nordqvist
Editor: Medical News Today


Then there is another claim made by BYU graduate students.

http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_3482712
http://www.genengnews.com/news/bnitem.aspx?name=1160759XSL_NEWSML_TO_NEWSML.xml

Has BYU prof found AIDS cure?
Compound could be long-sought breakthrough
By Bob Mims
The Salt Lake Tribune

Researchers, including a BYU scientist, believe they have found a new compound that could finally kill the HIV/AIDS virus, not just slow it down as current treatments do.
And, unlike the expensive, drug cocktails 25 years of research have produced for those with the deadly virus, the compound invented by Paul D. Savage of Brigham Young University appears to hunt down and kill HIV.
Although so far limited to early test tube studies, CSA-54, one of a family of compounds called Ceragenins (or CSAs), mimics the disease-fighting characteristics of anti-microbial and anti-viral agents produced naturally by a healthy human immune system.
Under a study sponsored by Ceragenix Pharmaceuticals, Savage and his colleagues developed and synthesized the compound for Vanderbilt University's School of Medicine. In his Nashville, Tenn., laboratories, Derya Unutmaz, an associate professor of Microbiology and Immunology, tested several CSAs for their ability to kill HIV.
While issuing a cautious caveat about his early results, Unutmaz acknowledged Monday that CSAs could be the breakthrough HIV/AIDS researchers have sought for so long.
"We received these agents [from BYU] in early October and our initial results began to culminate by November 2005. We have since reproduced all our results many times," he said. "We have some preliminary but very exciting results [but] we would like to formally show this before making any claims that would cause unwanted hype."
What studies to date show is a compound that attacks HIV at its molecular membrane level, disrupting the virus from interacting with their primary targets, the "T-helper" class white blood cells that comprise and direct the human immune system. Further, CSAs appear to be deadly to all known strains of HIV.
That would be a welcome development for the estimated 40.3 million people now living with HIV/AIDS globally, including nearly 5 million newly infected in the past year alone.
"We have devoted considerable resources to understand the mechanism of these compounds. We think this knowledge will enable us in collaboration with Dr. Savage to design even better compounds," Unutmaz said.
In addition to being a potential checkmate to HIV, the compounds show indications of being just as effective against other diseases plaguing humankind - among them influenza, possibly even the dread bird flu, along with smallpox and herpes.
Savage said he and his BYU research team had been studying CSAs for eight years, noting the compounds' value against microbial and bacteria infections. It was only a year ago they saw that CSAs killed viruses, too.
"They kill viruses very effectively and in a way paralleling our own, natural defenses," Savage said, noting that beyond the obvious use as a weapon against the AIDS pandemic, CSAs could help many others with non-HIV immune deficiencies.
Further, the compounds appear to have few limits on how they are delivered to patients. Although early indications are for application of CSAs with an ointment or cream, pills or injections may also be developed - if the compound gets to market.
BYU and Vanderbilt have jointly filed a patent on CSA technology, which has been licensed exclusively to Ceragenix.
Ceragenix CEO and Chairman Steven Porter said only further research will tell, but he was optimistic about the application of CSAs in the war on HIV/AIDS. There are indications that it could help battle antibiotic- and antiviral-resistance strains of disease as they manifest themselves.
"We are encouraged . . . that CSAs may provide a completely unique family of anti-infectives, potentially active against a wide range of viral, fungal and bacterial targets, including those resistant to current therapies," he said.
Assuming continued positive test results in animal and eventual human trials, Porter estimates it could be three to seven years before the compound is available by prescription. That transition could be accelerated, however, if the Food and Drug Administration should decide to fast-track the drug.
That day is still a long way off, though. First, researchers plan to publish their results in scientific journals, seeking peer review and independent confirmation of their findings. Assuming no flaws are found, several rounds of testing would follow.
Most of the nation's leading AIDS experts were attending the Conference on Retroviruses and Opportunistic Infections in Denver on Monday. The event's policies prohibits on-site news conferences or releases during the conference, and efforts to reach scientists there were not successful.
Of the few AIDS research luminaries reached, all said they preferred not to comment on the Vanderbilt tests until full results are published.


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skellington
16 Feb 2006, 10:17 AM
this is amazing news.

gwar469
16 Feb 2006, 10:22 AM
i wonder how long the CSA cream/injection/whatever would have to be used before you're guaranteed to be 100% HIV free. is there a guarantee that it would eliminate all of the virus in your body? i'll be interested to see the human tests on this one.

jneale
16 Feb 2006, 10:27 AM
It is amazing, but I hear my grandmother’s voice when the virus first broke in the news – “it won’t be easy – but there will be a cure one day – then there will be something worse to take its place.”

Her mother died when she was 16 of TB – she lived through other family members dying from polio & saw several of her sibling’s die of cancer.

The Ugly Thief
16 Feb 2006, 10:30 AM
is there a guarantee that it would eliminate all of the virus in your body?
there's no "guarantee" on anything for it yet ! They're still in the test tube phase of testing. I'm pretty sure they have not even tested it on a living human patient yet.

But it most definitely sounds encouraging !

I'm also wondering what is going on w/ that guy who was HIV positive at one time. It's really weird that it happened at the same time as the CSA breakthroughs.

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afterdinnerman
16 Feb 2006, 10:40 AM
Does this mean I can go back to fucking IV drug using Haitian whores?

If so, this is really good news.

The Ugly Thief
16 Feb 2006, 10:46 AM
Does this mean I can go back to fucking IV drug using Haitian whores?
I don't think it does. But if you think that's the proper way to greet positive news to AIDS victims such as this, then maybe you should.

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gwar469
16 Feb 2006, 10:49 AM
although i like this news, i just don't get really excited about this stuff until it passes human testing. you can get all the results you want in petri dishes, but until you consider human interactions, it's all theory. granted, good theory is better than no theory, but forgive me if i'm a little hesitant to accept this theory as the cure. there is hope, however, which never hurts.

The Ugly Thief
16 Feb 2006, 10:58 AM
i just don't get really excited about this stuff until it passes human testing. you can get all the results you want in petri dishes, but until you consider human interactions, it's all theory.
it's actually beyond theory :

What studies to date show is a compound that attacks HIV at its molecular membrane level, disrupting the virus from interacting with their primary targets, the "T-helper" class white blood cells that comprise and direct the human immune system. Further, CSAs appear to be deadly to all known strains of HIV.

testing it on humans would obviously be an important hurdle, but it's definitely beyond theory

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george
16 Feb 2006, 11:09 AM
That first story doesn't mean a whole lot. False positives are a dime-a-dozen.

As for the BYU story, how many stories have we heard over the years about cures for cancer? Sure, it looks as though it might hold some promise, but we likely won't know for years.

BigSugar
16 Feb 2006, 11:13 AM
wouldn't it be ironic if Andrew was cured simply by faith and prayer??! LOL! how many would choose to live with the disease.....

or what if the drugs worked, but you're dick fell off as a side effect. talk about a tough choice.

it's about time we cure AIDS anyway, since we've now got avian flu to worry about. can't have two worldwide pandemics to try and suck out govt. money and private donations for decades at a time.

PrfctTimeOfDay
16 Feb 2006, 11:30 AM
I tend to try and not get too excited about such a miracle---as curing hiv/aids would be, but I do find this to be intriguing and hope that it really does end up being something hugely significant to something so terrible. I hope this does turn out to be true….though does anyone else see the irony in this was discovered at BYU?

And as for something far worse taking it’s place I’ve heard that HPV is going to be something we’ll be hearing a lot about in the near future, which is primarily spread through heterosexual sex without a condom, so start wrapping it up, assheads

The Ugly Thief
16 Feb 2006, 11:47 AM
That first story doesn't mean a whole lot. False positives are a dime-a-dozen.
That's what I was thinking before I decided to post it, but they made SUCH a big deal out of his case that I'm just assuming it wasn't a case of incorrect testing.

::shrugs shoulders::

who knows ?

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The Ugly Thief
16 Feb 2006, 12:00 PM
….though does anyone else see the irony in this was discovered at BYU?
i was thinking the same thing. Definitely ironic. I guess the Christian-right may have something to scream about in the end ? We'll see.

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Dumb Hick
16 Feb 2006, 01:23 PM
So can I go out sexin' without a rubber now?

Let me know.

PrfctTimeOfDay
16 Feb 2006, 01:38 PM
So can I go out sexin' without a rubber now?

Let me know.

sure, if you want a kid or a myriad of other std's....weigh your options! :confused:

Dumb Hick
16 Feb 2006, 01:45 PM
sure, if you want a kid or a myriad of other std's....weigh your options! :confused:

well...i do hav those options already.

The Ugly Thief
16 Feb 2006, 01:51 PM
well...i do hav those options already.
well....I guess if you want to haunt all of mankind with the horrific prospect of Dumb Hick offspring then you can do whatever you want.

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jneale
16 Feb 2006, 01:57 PM
So can I go out sexin' without a rubber now?

Let me know.

stick those farm animals & you're safe (although I'm not sure if brucellosis iscommunicable to humans)

Necromancer
16 Feb 2006, 03:25 PM
stick those farm animals & you're safe (although I'm not sure if brucellosis iscommunicable to humans)

"Man catches bird flu from turkey while...."

george
16 Feb 2006, 04:09 PM
If you google "Andrew Stimpson" the story gets a little more complicated.

Allegedly, Stimpson didn't believe he was HIV positive and sued the hospital after his first positive test in 2002; tried to sue again after his negative test in 2003; then, after failing to win either suit, sold his "miracle" story to British tabloids. He has subsequently refused to take anymore tests.

The Ugly Thief
16 Feb 2006, 07:13 PM
also this extremely encouraging news :

SOURCE (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=healthNews&storyID=2006-02-06T232903Z_01_N06167221_RTRUKOC_0_US-AIDS-PREVENTION.xml)


Drug combination prevents HIV infection in monkeys

DENVER (Reuters) - An injection of two drugs normally used to treat HIV patients completely protected monkeys from becoming infected with the AIDS virus, U.S. researchers reported on Monday.

While it is too early to tell whether people can pop a pill and escape infection, the study provides the strongest evidence yet that it might be possible, the researchers said.

Dr. Walid Heneine of the Centers for Disease and Prevention studied rhesus monkeys that were injected with a version of Truvada -- Gilead Sciences Inc.'s once-a-day pill that includes its drugs Viread, or tenofovir, and Emtriva, or emtracitibine.

The pill is often used in drug cocktails to treat HIV infection, although they cannot cure it.

The monkeys were then exposed to a combined human-monkey AIDS virus called SHIV, using a rectal method aimed at simulating male homosexual contact. That happened daily for 14 days and the monkeys also got daily injections.

"Treatment continued for four weeks after last challenge," Heneine told the Conference on Retroviruses and Opportunistic Infections, a meeting of AIDS researchers being held in Denver.

The six monkeys that received the drug combination were all completely protected from infection. By comparison, nine monkeys that took part in a previous experiment all eventually became infected with the SHIV virus.

"Study authors believe the findings may be the strongest animal data yet suggesting that potent antiretrovirals given before HIV exposure may prevent sexual HIV transmission," the CDC said in a statement.

The researchers cautioned the drug dose was slightly different from that seen in people taking Truvada and said studies under way will answer the question of whether the findings will translate to humans.

It also has fewer side effects than some of the older, hard-to-take combination regimens.

Dr. Myron Cohen of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill said the study suggested that people who know they are at high risk of infection might be able someday to protect themselves by taking a pill.

"Adolescent women in South Africa go from having a 10 percent risk of HIV infection to a 30 percent risk in a matter of two years," said Cohen, who was not involved in the study. "This is a big epidemic that is not going away."

In emerging nations, young women have the highest risk of becoming infected with HIV, often by husbands or boyfriends who refuse to use condoms.

In richer countries, women are also at risk, as are men having sex with other men and injecting drug users. Cohen said these groups may also benefit from taking prophylactic doses of HIV drugs.

U.S. President George W. Bush's administration stresses abstinence as the best way to avoid AIDS, but Cohen and other experts said if the epidemic is to be stopped, people should make decisions based on science, rather than moral or emotional judgments.

"There are many other examples of people taking medications to protect themselves from disease," Cohen said.

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Homsar
17 Feb 2006, 12:50 AM
If they find a cure to this AIDS virus, I hope there is a long time before it mutates. Is it possible to just plain block a certain type of virus for good?

gwar469
20 Feb 2006, 04:26 PM
The monkeys were then exposed to a combined human-monkey AIDS virus called SHIV, using a rectal method aimed at simulating male homosexual contact. That happened daily for 14 days and the monkeys also got daily injections.

this sounds like something straight out of the Daily Show. i wonder what the monkeys thought of being anally raped for 14 days. just sayin'...

djudge79
20 Feb 2006, 04:29 PM
this sounds like something straight out of the Daily Show. i wonder what the monkeys thought of being anally raped for 14 days. just sayin'...
what's worse, they were anally rape for 14 days by Shiv.