View Full Version : Mallory elected mayor of Cincinnati
euro60
09 Nov 2005, 08:37 AM
Are you as surprised as I am? I thought all along that David Pepper came across as the more organized, the more focused, and the more eager of the two. Something deep down tells me that this is a huge missed opportunity for the city of Cincinnati :(
Handy Smurf
09 Nov 2005, 08:57 AM
throughout the evening, every time I saw an update, it seemed like Pepper was ahead by 2-3 thousand votes...and that was with 15-20 thousand votes per candidate
euro60
09 Nov 2005, 08:58 AM
throughout the evening, every time I saw an update, it seemed like Pepper was ahead by 2-3 thousand votes...and that was with 15-20 thousand votes per candidate
Pepper was up with 84% of the vote counted, then at 90% counted, Mallory snuck up, and with 94% counted, Mallory was way up all of the sudden.
skidminix
09 Nov 2005, 08:59 AM
MALLORY!!!
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sorry, couldn't resist :p
justa bill
09 Nov 2005, 09:28 AM
Are you as surprised as I am? I thought all along that David Pepper came across as the more organized, the more focused, and the more eager of the two. Something deep down tells me that this is a huge missed opportunity for the city of Cincinnati :(
I think either canidate was much better than Lukin could ever be... but, I agree, I think Pepper works increadably hard, knows the ins-and-outs of how the City "operates", and is very fair minded.
I think there was a very different approach to how the two operate, with Mallory being more 'political' and Pepper being more 'technical'. I liked Pepper a lot and wish him lots of luck in finding a way to continue to contribute to improvements to the City...
but I wish MORE luck in improving the City to Mallory!!! :D
markalot
09 Nov 2005, 09:41 AM
Mallory ran a positive campaign and he won. He campaigned so hard he lost 10 to 15 pounds (enquirer article). I think Cincinnati got the best man for the job.
35% voter turnout sucks, though.
Megs79
09 Nov 2005, 10:38 AM
the AP is saying that Mallory is Cincinnati's first black mayor. That's just incorrect.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051109/ap_on_el_st_lo/cincinnati_mayor
drougan
09 Nov 2005, 10:48 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051109/ap_on_el_st_lo/cincinnati_mayor
also...
Four years after riots tore this city apart, Cincinnati voters elected a black mayor for the first time.
a tad mellodramatic I think
The job has taken on new importance in recent years, as the city has switched from a system in which the city council picks the mayor to a popular vote.
correct me if I'm wrong...but I thought the system was the councilman with the most votes got to be mayor...?
justa bill
09 Nov 2005, 10:54 AM
Mallory ran a positive campaign and he won.
you know, I live in what many people would call a 'ghetto'... a predominently African-American ghetto, and I received 6 or 7 well-produced flyers which amoung other things called Pepper a "puppet" and said he was against "our families".
I don't think Mallory was involved in those--the small print indicated that they were NOT funded by the Mallory campaign. but they were probably the most disturbing local campaign ads I'd seen. :[
Again, all the best to Mallory!
The Hegemo
09 Nov 2005, 10:55 AM
The highest vote total becomes mayor was in place the last few years before the direct election of the mayor. I can't remember exactly when it started -- late 80s-early 90s I think. Before that it was Council who picked the mayor (I think it may have changed back and forth between council picking and highest vote-getter on council several times between when we stopped directly electing mayors in the 30s and when we started again)
Technically speaking, the AP article is correct -- Mallory is the first black mayor to be elected as mayor. Berry, Blackwell, and Tillery all were elected to Council and became mayor, but none of them were ever elected mayor by the voters because the voters didn't get to directly elect mayors. Just like I'm forever correcting people that Jerry Springer was never "elected mayor of Cincinnati" -- he was elected to council several times and became mayor.
euro60
09 Nov 2005, 11:00 AM
Just like I'm forever correcting people that Jerry Springer was never "elected mayor of Cincinnati" -- he was elected to council several times and became mayor.
Which, incidentally, was once again the correct question to a "Jeopardy" clue last night.... ;)
drougan
09 Nov 2005, 11:04 AM
ahhhh.... semantics. Gotta love it. He's not the first black mayor...just the first black mayor elected.
Since I've only been in cincinnati since 98, the only other system of mayor selection I've known is most popular councilman.
LOakley
09 Nov 2005, 11:18 AM
you know, I live in what many people would call a 'ghetto'... a predominently African-American ghetto, and I received 6 or 7 well-produced flyers which amoung other things called Pepper a "puppet" and said he was against "our families".
I don't think Mallory was involved in those--the small print indicated that they were NOT funded by the Mallory campaign. but they were probably the most disturbing local campaign ads I'd seen. :[
Again, all the best to Mallory!
I volunteered extensively for Mallory yesterday and I was at the HQ between assignments when word came in about literature being distributed in some black areas that implied it was from the Mallory campaign.
In no way did the Mallory campaign have anything to do with that literature. In fact, two of the campaign officers (including the field operations officer coordinating volunteer activities) had to drive around town at 5:30 PM on election day tracking down the flyers and getting them off the streets instead of doing their planned duties. Those flyers were ridiculously anti-Pepper and required removal from circulation because the Mallory campaign did not want to seem even remotely involved.
Wondertastic
09 Nov 2005, 11:22 AM
i'm glad mallory won, since he got my vote :) . he ran a pretty clean campaign. i liked him from the beginning.
there is just something about pepper to me. too polished politician for me i guess. lots of slogans and negative ads.
it may be good to have someone who hasn't been in the city politics for a while to give it a breath of fresh air.
Sovrana
09 Nov 2005, 01:21 PM
there is just something about pepper to me. too polished politician for me i guess. lots of slogans and negative ads.
it may be good to have someone who hasn't been in the city politics for a while to give it a breath of fresh air.
This is exactly how I felt about Pepper...too polished. Also, I never buy the argument "I'm not a career politician" that I heard Pepper say. I don't know what it means really except that it is a name-calling strategy. My response to it is always, so...what are you?
Was pleasantly surprised that Mallory won.
artfag
09 Nov 2005, 01:29 PM
I am so very frustrated about this election. If I was Mallory I would be pissed to hear things going around saying that because of his color he is the one that will mend cincinnati. Does anyone else see the ignorance in this? If anyone watched the debates on PBS or on the radio people would understand why Pepper is "polished." Its cause he did his homework. I read his plan almost entirely and there was very little to disagree with. When asked questions, Mallory rarely answered with something different than "I have a unique skill in leading..." C'mon he looked worse than Bush. When asked something specific like about the Bank project he would give thanks for the question and with a ridiculous reply saying that it was up to the experts. Thats fine leadership. Also, the numbers say Mallory spent more on slamming Pepper than the versus.
malheureux
09 Nov 2005, 01:32 PM
I volunteered extensively for Mallory yesterday and I was at the HQ between assignments when word came in about literature being distributed in some black areas that implied it was from the Mallory campaign.
In no way did the Mallory campaign have anything to do with that literature. In fact, two of the campaign officers (including the field operations officer coordinating volunteer activities) had to drive around town at 5:30 PM on election day tracking down the flyers and getting them off the streets instead of doing their planned duties. Those flyers were ridiculously anti-Pepper and required removal from circulation because the Mallory campaign did not want to seem even remotely involved.
i volunteered for mallory via nick spencer's camp for the primaries. :)
i know for a fact, being sent to an urban area to pass out lit, that pepper in no way had the black vote - not because he wasn't black, but his stance on issues concerning the black population. i can also say that i saw some of the anti-pepper lit, and not only was it not tied to mallory, but it wasn't tied to any org at all - these were citizens who paid for the printing and distribution of anti-pepper lit. i've not seen much like that in a while...
the only two representitives at the poll station with me that day were ones for reese [gack!] and this independent anti-pepper guy. i was pretty popular in my gigantic mallory tshirt... ;)
euro60
09 Nov 2005, 02:10 PM
When asked questions, Mallory rarely answered with someone different than "I have a unique skill in leading..." When asked something specific like about the Bank project he would give thanks for the question and with a ridiculous reply saying that it was up to the experts.
I whole-heartedly agree. I don't recall hearing Mallory provide a lot of specifics at any time during the campaign, other than "it's about leadership". I guess we'll find out soon enough whether Mallory has it or not. He may find that politics at the Cincinnati local level is a whole different scene than the Ohio state level...
LOakley
09 Nov 2005, 02:17 PM
i volunteered for mallory via nick spencer's camp for the primaries. :)
i know for a fact, being sent to an urban area to pass out lit, that pepper in no way had the black vote - not because he wasn't black, but his stance on issues concerning the black population. i can also say that i saw some of the anti-pepper lit, and not only was it not tied to mallory, but it wasn't tied to any org at all - these were citizens who paid for the printing and distribution of anti-pepper lit. i've not seen much like that in a while...
the only two representitives at the poll station with me that day were ones for reese [gack!] and this independent anti-pepper guy. i was pretty popular in my gigantic mallory tshirt... ;)
This was slimier than usual - the person responsible for the bogus lit yesterday was getting people to pass them out by saying he was the Treasurer for the Mallory campaign. The Treasurer for the campaign was Mallory's mother not some black man in a black SUV.
I volunteered during the primary also and did a lot of canvassing throughout the campaign. I found that even though Mallory, Pepper and Reese have substantially the same policies, whites disliked Reese and blacks disliked Pepper. I find that really sad. I think it was that Reese's style does not translate well to the white community and Pepper's style does not translate well to the black community.
I don't know if the black community's dislike of Pepper is as irreversible as the white's dislike of Reese. Pepper just didn't treat the black community with as high of a priority as the white Republicans, and made very little effort to reach out during this election.
djudge79
09 Nov 2005, 02:19 PM
This is exactly how I felt about Pepper...too polished. Also, I never buy the argument "I'm not a career politician" that I heard Pepper say. I don't know what it means really except that it is a name-calling strategy. My response to it is always, so...what are you?
Was pleasantly surprised that Mallory won.
i gave the nod to mallory, but i really think that pepper was sincere when saying that he wasn't a career politician. i saw about 5 minutes of his conciliation speech last night on the news and it was a great speech. very sincere, very heartful talk about how much he loved this city, all off the cuff. really, really a great speech and it showed me that he really was running for the right reasons and not so much for career advancement.
Unrequited
10 Nov 2005, 01:48 PM
I think both candidates were worthy but I gave the nod to Mallory primarily due to Pepper's association with city council. City council has achieved little in the six years I've lived here. Pepper reminded me too much of Luken, a politically connected, well-funded attorney with a sense of entitlement about him. Glad to see Luken go, the first "strong mayor", what a joke.
artfag
10 Nov 2005, 02:06 PM
I fear we are the next detroit. R.I.P. Cincinasty
malheureux
10 Nov 2005, 02:07 PM
This was slimier than usual - the person responsible for the bogus lit yesterday was getting people to pass them out by saying he was the Treasurer for the Mallory campaign. The Treasurer for the campaign was Mallory's mother not some black man in a black SUV.
I volunteered during the primary also and did a lot of canvassing throughout the campaign. I found that even though Mallory, Pepper and Reese have substantially the same policies, whites disliked Reese and blacks disliked Pepper. I find that really sad. I think it was that Reese's style does not translate well to the white community and Pepper's style does not translate well to the black community.
I don't know if the black community's dislike of Pepper is as irreversible as the white's dislike of Reese. Pepper just didn't treat the black community with as high of a priority as the white Republicans, and made very little effort to reach out during this election.
you know, it's really funny - as a white female, i didn't like reese OR pepper. i didn't like reese because of her incessant lip service while on council - honey, if you've served time working for the city and didn't do anything about the homocide issue or homeless issue or small businesses downtown, what makes you think you'd be a good mayor? same goes for pepper, except the media spin about him being so sincere and whatever really put a bad taste in my mouth. classic silver spoon, just like luken. i just thought mallory had the most believable shot.
one thing i can say for mallory, which certainly didn't hurt how i voted, he taught a class for some of the MR/DD people in my facility. and not during election time. this is what he does, apparently when he's not trying to win a campaign. nice guy, that mallory.
now would the flipping city/state/country get off of the fact that he's black, jesus!! he's human. and qualified. what else matters??
euro60
10 Nov 2005, 02:10 PM
now would the flipping city/state/country get off of the fact that he's black, jesus!! he's human. and qualified. what else matters??
Did I mention that Mallory is BLACK? :p
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