Super Size Me Part Deux?

[tobedawg]

http://www.modbee.com/life/healthyliving/story/11124616p-11879250c.html

Let The Corporate Propaganda Begin..

[Homsar]

"The poor man's diet" she says?
Hey, 1,400 calories are 1,400 calories and less food is less food.

[twentyshots]

I am sure it worked for her. You'll recall that freak in SuperSize Me who eats a Big Mac everyday....he was thin as a rail, so there are anomalies, but c'mon! There is also a guy in the world who eats bikes and cars and shit one piece at a time. let's try his diet.

[Orville Wrong]

Does your name have to feature "Morgan" to prove the easily presumable about McDonald's?

If you don't like McDonald's don't go there. It's as easy as that.

Morgan Spurlock's film was probably the stupidest thing ever committed to celluloid -- and, yes, I've seen Gummo. If he got ebola tomorrow, I'd have a hard time mustering a frown when his intestines liquified and fell out his anus.

[akip]

even at 1400 calories, that grease is going straight to her arteries.

if there's one thing i've learned in the past few months, and with an even bigger hammer to the head last week (though i'm not gonna get into it right now), is what you do catches up to you...with furious vengeance.

mcdonalds ushered in the crap food era. in a more just universe, they'd have a mountain of bad karma bearing down on them. in this one, they're a huge success.

[markalot]

What's really sad is that dumb ass doesn't realize she could eat twice as much food IF she just cut down on the fat (ie ate healthy). McD's food is full of so much fat .....

Wendy's

replace the fries with a bake potato or chili, no cheese or mayo on the burger (or go with the grilled chicken).

It's easy, it's good, it works.

[jneale]

let's see where she is in 20 yrs...

Akip - thinking happy thoughts for you whatever the deal is... :)

(and I'm not a happy face kinda guy)

[Spoon4613]

What's really sad is that dumb ass doesn't realize she could eat twice as much food IF she just cut down on the fat (ie ate healthy). McD's food is full of so much fat .....

Wendy's

replace the fries with a bake potato or chili, no cheese or mayo on the burger (or go with the grilled chicken).

It's easy, it's good, it works.
I totally agree... She could have had a heck of a lot more food if she would have ate normal food or God forbid, cooked it herself. Her losing weight was simple math like everyone has already said. But 1,400 calories at McDonalds isn't that much... isn't a big mac like 1,000? I don't eat there, I'm just guessing.

[Orville Wrong]

I totally agree... She could have had a heck of a lot more food if she would have ate normal food or God forbid, cooked it herself. Her losing weight was simple math like everyone has already said. But 1,400 calories at McDonalds isn't that much... isn't a big mac like 1,000? I don't eat there, I'm just guessing.
This is exactly why Supersize Me was such an abortion of a documentary. Who the fuck can't figure out that if you eat shitty food at McDonald's for every meal (like absolutely no one does) you will get fat. Thanks, Sherlock Spurlock, for getting to the bottom of this.

Can I have my nine bucks back, lardo?

[akip]

let's see where she is in 20 yrs...

Akip - thinking happy thoughts for you whatever the deal is... :)

(and I'm not a happy face kinda guy)

thanks j! it's not me, but somebody i love. :(

[yoshomon]

Oh god, all that saturated fat and cholesterol. That's gross.

[Nellie Bly]

I like how she used the meal planner function on McD's website to plan her meals. It's like the company's trying to help people block their arteries a whole new way!

I saw a piece on the weekend news about this lady, she didn't change her exercise routine (pretty much just mowed the lawn), and used the meal planner to sort out what she was going to eat every day. Then they spoke with a dietician who basically said "you may be losing weight, but you're still eating crap--it's going to have some sort of negative effect on you."

My one question is: what does she feed her kids?

[Dirk]

I think this mean exactly as much as SuperSize me...not a damn thing. There is nothing wrong with McDonalds. If you want to eat there, go right ahead. But you still need a balanced diet. SuperSize Me was crap because any moron can figure out if you go 1 place and eat the worst possible things on the menu every single day, it will be bad for you. You could do the same thing anywhere. Hell, go to Subway 3 meals a day and order the most food you can eat and make sure it is the most unhealthy thing they have, you'll end up exactly the same. This woman is controling what she eats, but still eating crappy food daily. She is losing weight because she is eating less, but still not eating all that healthy. They are both idiots.

If you want some McDonalds, eat it, I know I do. But the idea of only eating McDonalds (for good or for bad) is just stupid. Any sensical person will tell you that balance is the key. Eating one thing for every meal isn't good for you, whether it's McDonalds or potatoes.

[gwar469]

Sad thing is -- she's only losing muscle mass. Her metabolism is most likely shot to hell, her arteries probably look like a plaque convention, and she's buried herself into a nice hole. Once she starts eating more than 1400 calories/day, she's going to be putting on the pounds like crazy.

What is with our society that we're always looking for the easy solution to weight loss? (Okay, I know the answer: lazy). There are only two factors to the damn equation: diet and exercise. Diet AND exercise. Yes, you need to cut calories, but you also need to burn more calories by boosting your metabolism through aerobic exercise. And whoever said we didn't have to worry about sat and trans fats anymore. She gets so little fiber in her diet -- I don't even want to go there...

[Buzzstein]

I thought Super Size Me was an interesting film. Yes everybody already knows that McDonald's is bad for you. But that documentary showed that it is even more unhealthy than everyone probably thought. The film also discussed aspects of fast food marketing and advertising.

I think there IS DEFINITELY something wrong with McDonald's.

[Orville Wrong]

I thought Super Size Me was an interesting film. Yes everybody already knows that McDonald's is bad for you. But that documentary showed that it is even more unhealthy than everyone probably thought. The film also discussed aspects of fast food marketing and advertising.

I think there IS DEFINITELY something wrong with McDonald's.
So, what, there should be a law? I have enjoyed the occasional Big Mac for three decades plus, and I am in fine shape. Am I to be denied this guilty pleasure because rotund retards can't control themselves? Fuck that.

Oh, but the advertising is so seductive and compelling! It's an insidious plot! Their fucking slogan is "I'm lovin' it." God, that makes me want a Quarter Pounder all right. Horsefeathers.

If you are fat, it is damn near 100% probable that it's your own damn fault (I'll make an exception for the people who have whatever that glandular condition is that turns you into a blimp -- you know, the one every fucking whale claims to have). Sorry, but that's the facts.

[joebob]

People knock Spurlock for everything from using words to illustrate points(remember, America needs pictures and images and pie graphs - unless we're invading countries of brown people) to his voice or his bikerstache. Get over yourselves. He made a point you didn't need convincing to figure out. Guess what: you really are smarter than the people it was intended for, just like you always assumed.

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This lady cracks me up (well, the story cracks me up anyway) with the calorie thing people already jumped on. Any fargin nutritionist in the world will tell you it doesn't matter what you eat - if you burn more calories than you consume, you will lose weight. You could siphon lard, as long as you ran enough afterwards, and you'd still lose weight. The other health effects, many of which Spurlock showed us, are where the true harm comes in...

[tobedawg]

People knock Spurlock for everything from using words to illustrate points(remember, America needs pictures and images and pie graphs - unless we're invading countries of brown people) to his voice or his bikerstache. Get over yourselves. He made a point you didn't need convincing to figure out. Guess what: you really are smarter than the people it was intended for, just like you always assumed.

Very well stated..

Ironically I just finished reading Spurlock's book, "Please Don't Eat This Book!"

[Angel30]

I think the idea of being able to take one of their hamburgers, place it in your closet and if you come back a year (or a lot more) later, there it is, just as you left it...no mold...nothing. That to me is gross...just what are they injecting into their burgers? :eek:

Besides, it isn't just fast food that is causing weight gain...it is soda. My friend from Ireland remarked that because the sizes are so much bigger in America and also the free refills...in Europe, think kiddy size as standard size (if I remember correctly, it has been a while since I was in the UK anyway) and you have to pay for refills. Diet soda doesn't cut it either...all those chemicals..thank goodness splenda is making its way around.

[Orville Wrong]

People knock Spurlock for everything from using words to illustrate points(remember, America needs pictures and images and pie graphs - unless we're invading countries of brown people) to his voice or his bikerstache. Get over yourselves. He made a point you didn't need convincing to figure out. Guess what: you really are smarter than the people it was intended for, just like you always assumed.
I knock Spurlock for being a maker of a documentary that presents no information of any use to its audience. Fat people are uncomfortable in movie seats, and can't fit down the documentary aisle at Blockbuster. STUPID fat people DO NOT CONSUME INDY DOCUMENTARIES MADE BY SNEARING FUCKWITS, they consume food by the semi-tractor trailer load.

I am going to make a documentary called "Whole Lotta Orville," in which I buy all my food at Whole Foods by the buttload, never exercise, and turn myself into a jiggling mass of flab. That would be worthwhile because Whole Foods sells stuff that can make you fat, and people that DO consume twee, shitty documentaries also like to impress their metrosexual compatriots with their inflated grocery bill from that store.

[joebob]

Besides, it isn't just fast food that is causing weight gain...it is soda.
Decent point. NYT reports today that whereas 20 years ago, not a single state could report obesity in more than 25% of their population, more than 40 states can today. We're fatty fat fatties.

Kudos to the American Beverage Assn. last week for voluntarily setting standards for soda sales in American schools - they are self-imposing standards (so they're not enforceable by the gov't, but...) to not put soda machines in elementary schools; not have the machines on during school hours in middle schools; and to have sodas as no more than half the options in high school vending machines. Some schools will ignore these industry standards 'cause it makes them some cash (even elementary schools), and many more are moving to no-soda policies in general. What are the tweakin' little would-be gamers and potheads gonna do???

Oh, wait. Red Bull-stacked lockers. Smuggle alcopops. "Energy" drinks with exponentially more sugar...

Well, it was a nice gesture.

[Buzzstein]

So, what, there should be a law? I have enjoyed the occasional Big Mac for three decades plus, and I am in fine shape. Am I to be denied this guilty pleasure because rotund retards can't control themselves?

No and no. But there's still something wrong with McDonald's.


If you are fat, it is damn near 100% probable that it's your own damn fault (I'll make an exception for the people who have whatever that glandular condition is that turns you into a blimp -- you know, the one every fucking whale claims to have). Sorry, but that's the facts.

Having a McDonald's on every corner sure doesn't help.

[something]

So, what, there should be a law? I have enjoyed the occasional Big Mac for three decades plus, and I am in fine shape. Am I to be denied this guilty pleasure because rotund retards can't control themselves? Fuck that.

Oh, but the advertising is so seductive and compelling! It's an insidious plot! Their fucking slogan is "I'm lovin' it." God, that makes me want a Quarter Pounder all right. Horsefeathers.

If you are fat, it is damn near 100% probable that it's your own damn fault (I'll make an exception for the people who have whatever that glandular condition is that turns you into a blimp -- you know, the one every fucking whale claims to have). Sorry, but that's the facts.



you need to do some research before you go around criticizing people with metabolic disorders.
not every overweight person is fat because of their eating habits. they might be on medication, their bodies might not be able to process glucose.
weight is a lot more complex than just eat less exercise more and ANY doctor will tell you that.

[Orville Wrong]

rotund retards + blimp + fucking whale = true colors
Listen, I realize that "people" is part of "fat people." What I can't brook is someone whose reaction to adverse circumstances they themselves are responsible for is reflexively to seek a third party to blame. And if it's a corporation, even better! They're motivated by profit, and McDonald's doesn't really consist of people (except that it does), so they provide a unanimously easy target for the intellectually lazy and incurious -- like Morgan Spurlock.

[Orville Wrong]

you need to do some research before you go around criticizing people with metabolic disorders.
not every overweight person is fat because of their eating habits. they might be on medication, their bodies might not be able to process glucose.
weight is a lot more complex than just eat less exercise more and ANY doctor will tell you that.
Research this, fucko: I explicitly made an exception for them.

[joebob]

Yo, OW, we get it. You're better than everyone. And not fat. Let us know when you publish your Stylized Guide To Taste, Ethics and Epistemology. Then you can call us imbecilic bitches for not buying it at Wal-Mart.

[Handy Smurf]

This is exactly why Supersize Me was such an abortion of a documentary. Who the fuck can't figure out that if you eat shitty food at McDonald's for every meal (like absolutely no one does) you will get fat. Thanks, Sherlock Spurlock, for getting to the bottom of this.

Can I have my nine bucks back, lardo?
:p
Its funny because its true

although I havent seen Supersize Me and wouldnt mind watching it to judge for myself

[Radi0FreeChicgo]

Listen, I realize that "people" is part of "fat people." What I can't brook is someone whose reaction to adverse circumstances they themselves are responsible for is reflexively to seek a third party to blame. And if it's a corporation, even better! They're motivated by profit, and McDonald's doesn't really consist of people (except that it does), so they provide a unanimously easy target for the intellectually lazy and incurious -- like Morgan Spurlock.

damn! what's up with all the anger toward documentary producers? I sort of understand why some people get all worked up about Michael Moore because he likes to push sensitive political buttons. (I personally think people are way too sensitive and completely overreact to his work when they disagree with his viewpoints, but I can see how he might piss a few people off)

However, Spurlock and Super Size Me??? Really? I thought it was a really great piece...informative, thought-provoking and entertaining to boot. Everything that a mainstream documentary should be. Like any other movie, not everyone is going to like it, but I don't see how it's offensive...or how could elicit such a strong negative response like "intellecturally[sic] lazy and incurious."

Spurlock had a message he wanted to convey, so he put himself in an extreme situation to further his point add some drama to the cause. You don't have to agree with his viewpoints, but I think he was quite successful in making an entertaining documentary that will hopefully make people think twice before they eat their fourth meal of the week from the MickeyD's drive-thru.

[markalot]

damn! what's up with all the anger toward documentary producers?

Look up the word documentary and maybe you'll understand.

[Orville Wrong]

I decided to read this...this paragraph has abolutely nothing to do with labeling people. Critique the documentary if you want, on it's own merits, but the name calling doesn't do anything except reveal why I have you on ignore.

We label that which we fear; so tell me: do you also fear being black (nigger), getting fucked up the ass (fag) or are you just afraid of being fat?

I have to go to work now.
We label that which we fear? Since I'm on ignore with you, I guess I'm just pissing in the wind here, but that is another "classic" load of crap. You toss off these little pearls tarted up in sagacious language, but they're almost always ill-considered and specious.

I label what I despise, and I have never used the n-bomb on here except in careful context. Bigots suck. Fag, I've maybe used in the sense of "dork," since I am not homophobic in the least.

[loveydovey]

Whatever happened to construction workers sitting down for lunch with their little metal lunchboxes?

Dang lady, get yourself some yogurt and a bag of baby carrots. McDonald's ain't really all that cheap, if you ask me.

[gwar469]

not every overweight person is fat because of their eating habits. they might be on medication, their bodies might not be able to process glucose.
weight is a lot more complex than just eat less exercise more and ANY doctor will tell you that.

i agree with the sentiment in this statement, insomuch that there are some people with disorders that cause weight problems. hell, my own sister has a thyroid problem and is obese. BUT, she's recently started taking thyroid medication, continued watching her diet, exercising her ass off (she lives in Vegas and bikes/hikes like it's her job) and now she's losing that weight at a very good rate (1 lb/week). Before the medication, she couldn't lose weight for anything, even though she was properly dieting and exercising.

So, I have a hard time with people when they tell me their obesity is caused by a medical condition with no cure. There may be cases where that is true, but I think a lot of people just use that excuse because it's easier than remedying the problem.

Don't get me wrong -- whenever I see an obese person in the gym, or one eating healthy at the cafeteria, I don't ridicule them. Instead, I say to myself "at least they're trying to help themselves".

[Handy Smurf]

Whatever happened to construction workers sitting down for lunch with their little metal lunchboxes?

Dang lady, get yourself some yogurt and a bag of baby carrots. McDonald's ain't really all that cheap, if you ask me.
Yeah, you can go grocery shopping and spend a lot less for a weeks worth of meals than $70

[something]

Research this, fucko: I explicitly made an exception for them.


oh fucko- oooh am i supposed to be scared now?

but anywho- I disregarded your exception because of your sarcastic tone.

[joebob]

oh fucko- oooh am i supposed to be scared now?

but anywho- I disregarded your exception because of your sarcastic tone.
Careful, something, he'll taunt you a second time-uh.
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[Orville Wrong]

oh fucko- oooh am i supposed to be scared now?

but anywho- I disregarded your exception because of your sarcastic tone.
Who gets scared on a messageboard?

Let me get this straight: You disregarded my explicit, if parenthetical, exception, then called me out for failing to make just that exception?

I called you fucko because you took a tone with me. So, you started it. Neener neener.

[yoshomon]

Yo, OW, we get it. You're better than everyone. And not fat. Let us know when you publish your Stylized Guide To Taste, Ethics and Epistemology. Then you can call us imbecilic bitches for not buying it at Wal-Mart.

Oh snap!


I never saw 'Super Size Me', but I know a few people who went vegetarian after watching it. So it has to be pretty good.

[loveydovey]

"Supersize Me" didn't put me off fast food - I'm already grossed out by it and only eat it if starvation is the only alternative. It DID, however, put me off vegan fare - the narrator's girlfriend was a vegan chef, and the concoctions she served up looked positively raunch. ;)

[something]

oh lordy.

i'll have none of this neener neener business.
i didn't start anything because i'm not the one calling people blimps and fuckos.
and yes i dismissed your parenthetical because your tone was lacking sincerity.

and now hi ho to work.

[Orville Wrong]

oh lordy.

i'll have none of this neener neener business.
i didn't start anything because i'm not the one calling people blimps and fuckos.
and yes i dismissed your parenthetical because your tone was lacking sincerity.

and now hi ho to work.
Unless you put me on ignore, you'll take what you're given. You won't be the first or last.

Careful around the deep-fryer, slapnuts!

[akip]

"Supersize Me" didn't put me off fast food - I'm already grossed out by it and only eat it if starvation is the only alternative. It DID, however, put me off vegan fare - the narrator's girlfriend was a vegan chef, and the concoctions she served up looked positively raunch. ;)

as a matter of fact, i just read a medical chart today where the patient being hospitalized for heart failure weighed 400 pounds, and he was a vegetarian. but even a vegetarian can put away a lot of doughnuts.

i didn't see supersize, but i read fast food nation and wasn't so thrilled about the power mcdonald's has over the meat industry. let's just say that you're taking a much bigger risk eating your hamburger rare than you did before they put their big clown foot in.

the other thing i've noticed over the past several decades is that the good highway diner's become a thing of the past. they can't compete with the fast food franchises, who've taken over the business. i used to get some great meals on driving trips in funky little places. now, almost invariably, if i try some little hole in the wall off the interstate, i can't even choke the food down. as my businessman brother says, it makes no economic sense for them to put out a halfway decent meal for a dwindling customer base.

[despondent]

I could go on a starvation diet and drop a lot of weight, but that doesn't mean it's healthy.

[yvette7ica]

90 days of eating pretty much the same thing everyday would be pure torture. :eek: I love breakfast burritos, but I sure as hell couldn't eat them everyday. Maybe every other day.

[Shlep]

Like Orville, I considered it a foregone conclusion that eating three meals a day that has only slightly less nutritional value than the container it comes in, is loaded with enough grease, fat, sodium, nitrates, and what-not to drop a charging African rhino in its tracks, and which was never intended to be regular nourishment but an occasional repast, a guilty pleasure, a splurge would, in fact, be unhealthy and generally unsound. What did not occur to me is that someone could be elevated to the status of cause celebre and dispenser of Earth-shattering insights, and even self-sacrificing martyr for making an entire movie where he deliberately sabotages his health to point this out.

I guess I must be a member of some self-appointed, smug, intellectual elite for thinking this way. After all, you have people who have tried suing fast food restaurants for making them fat. My own sister subsisted largely on such a diet for years and could never seem to figure out why her weight kept ballooning. I guess you have to be an ivory-tower intellectual to not have to gorge out on Mickey D's non-stop (and "Super-Size" your meals, no less) to arrive at certain conclusions.

I blame Jared, the Subway guy, for starting this. I remember Jared got noticed by the "Today Show," then was catapulted to fame and fortune for going on the healthy, well-advised, and surely nutritionally-sound diet of eating at friggin' Subway every day. Hence, we have a guy who turned himself into a total lard-body by making lousy eating choices, then he's a hero for shedding some of that weight by making a whole new set of bad choices; though Subway, to their credit, did mention in teeny-tiny print at the bottom of the screen for about 2 nanoseconds during the Jared spots that they were not in any way shape or form suggesting that having this guy bray on about how he went from "blob" to "stud" by eating at Subway was in no way intended to suggest they themselves endoresed such a diet. Fantastic. My sister eventually wound up losing a lot of weight too: she developed a crack habit, and now gets a strictly-monitored, healthy diet in a Manassass, Virginia minimum-security womens' prison. I think I have an idea as to how I can make her famous and rich when she gets out...

Next we have this Spurlock character who embarks on an experiment whose thesis might very well have been, simply, "Duh!" and produced the sort of ground-breaking revelations that one might find if I decided to film myself getting hit by a bus doing 80 to prove that disobeying the "Walk/Don't Walk" and disregarding Moms' adminition to look both ways before crossing can indeed have deleterious heatlh effects.

And now we have another lady trying to be the Jared of McDonalds to counter the previous claim. And you know what? Taking health advice from these people makes about as much sense as taking stock tips from the know-it-all who sits three cubicles down from you at work and never seemed to have any money. You might as well listen to me, someone who at least has a degree in Health Promotion. Here goes...ready?

1) Eat three squares a day.
2) Lift your lazy butt and raise your pulse a couple times a week
3) Don't inhale smoke into your lungs
4) Go to McDonalds' or Wendys or some TGI O'Bennitooles restaurant every once in awhile and get a meal for the purpose of enjoyment and not simply nutrition, since no matter what you do, you're going to die eventually. And that might be tomorrow.

[joebob]

Next we have this Spurlock character who embarks on an experiment whose thesis might very well have been, simply, "Duh!" and produced the sort of ground-breaking revelations that one might find if I decided to film myself getting hit by a bus doing 80 to prove that disobeying the "Walk/Don't Walk" and disregarding Moms' adminition to look both ways before crossing can indeed have deleterious heatlh effects.
His posing the questions, "what if I ate nothing but..." were rhetorical. The point of the film wasn't to ask that question, but to illustrate that exact "DUH!" point to the cows in this country. I'm still excited, remembering the broad release this flick got. Someone pointed out earlier that scant few Uh-mur-i-kuns even watch "documentary" films. (Wikipedia says the new generation of documentaries are more like "reality" television - contrived.) Well a shitload saw this one, among them maybe a few of the non-"DUH!" types. Reality-uh,-reality. For nine dollars. And without tribes.

And now we have another lady trying to be the Jared of McDonalds to counter the previous claim. And you know what? Taking health advice from these people makes about as much sense as taking stock tips from the know-it-all who sits three cubicles down from you at work and never seemed to have any money.
Again, instruction wasn't the point of the film, or, I daresay, this lady's brainless diet. They're both - this toot and Spurlock - entrepreneurs with their ideas, not professors or business people (though Spurlock has seen success since with "30 Days" and his book publishing). Opportunists, not inventors or innovators, just making points they don't think certain/enough/many/theright (take your pick) other people get. If you could make a lucrative living somehow telling people how you saw things, that maybe their way of seeing it was skewed for such-and-such a reason, wouldn't you do it?

Your recommendations on pedestrian science and the stock market are worthwhile, as are your lifestyle suggestions. Is Health Promotion like Public Health, but not as medical-school grounded?

[Shlep]

Is Health Promotion like Public Health, but not as medical-school grounded?

Yes.

Though my Masters' is in Management of Information Systems. I'm an IT instructor. I could also advise you to spend less time sitting idle in front of a computer...though I'd be a bit of a hypocrite.

[joebob]

I could also advise you to spend less time sitting idle in front of a computer...though I'd be a bit of a hypocrite.
I'll give you three guesses as to what type of job taught be how to while away the time at a monitor.

IT. ;)