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Duemellon
14 May 2005, 02:40 PM
Someone I know put in a request for a copy of the speech Leis delivered on Fountain Square on May 10th because...

Well, this is good shit.

For those who don't know who St. Simon Leis (a.k.a Torquemada of Cinti), he's our sherrif. You want the speech? here it is with BOLD type for the particularly interesting parts:

Forty years ago when I first became a lawyer and entered public life as a prosecutor, little did I realize, as I speak today, I would have to take a staunch moral stance on law enforcement issues. Our courts at that time upheld the rule of law, supported law enforcement, and recognized god as an integral part of a law abiding society. Not any more.

Sealed under glass in Washington D.C., the constitution of the United States of America , lulls Americans into a false sense of security, believing that nothing can change the ideals and intent of its god-fearing framers. Most Americans, believe that our constitution has survived intact for more than 200 years without any significant change. Nothing can be further from the truth.

The U.S.. Supreme Court , after 150 years of bible study in the public schools of this country, banned bible reading and prayer in our public classrooms, and declared starting in the 60’s, the following practices to be violations of the first amendment: the recitation of prayers composed by anyone including school officials, bible reading, recitation of the lord's prayer, and prayers at public school graduations.

Since the first of those Supreme Court decisions, juvenile crime has sky-rocketed, teen pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases have increased dramatically; violent crime (including domestic violence) has risen 600% over the last 30 years; teen suicide is up 300%; and depression among children is up 1000%. Every day, television and newspapers inundate us with horrific accounts of crime in our communities. As law enforcement officers we confront these situations every day.

Daily we learn of the mass killing of students in our schools, shootings taking place in day-care centers and places of worship. Is there any wonder, why so many young people are committing such horrible crimes against innocent victims, when we protect the rights of atheists, and abolish the recognition of almighty god in our classrooms?

The vast majority of Americans are hard working, god fearing people busily caring for their children and families, contributing to their communities, paying their taxes, and trusting public officials to run the daily business of their government in their best interest, and law enforcement to protect them from the criminal element.

What many fail to see, however, are the forces of moral corruption working feverishly, behind closed doors. They are out there every day walking through the halls of congress, state legislatures, and the courts. The gay and lesbian coalitions, rabid feminist groups, and the American civil liberties union all competing for power. Many use their political action committee funds, to influence elected officials, to represent these parasitic groups who proselytize and force us under the protection of law, to tolerate and accept their despicable conduct and agenda.

The American Civil Liberties Union constantly use their influence to promote their own self-centered philosophy. All the while, these individuals make concerted efforts to ensure that any public reference to god, prayer, or family values, remain relics of the past. Their members become upset, when caring parents speak out against the perversion of the internet, cyber-porn and cyber-sex chat rooms, violent video games, and music videos, designed and targeted to compromise the morals of innocent children. We are losing our voice in America; we have allowed special interests and lobbyists to control our government.

So many contradictions confront the American people. We stood by silently and watched atheists abolish school prayer and replace it with (the all too familiar) yellow crime scene tape, metal detectors, and drug-sniffing dogs.

Daily, we witness deviate behavior in the classrooms because we have stripped teachers and principles of the authority necessary to do their jobs. As parents, we teach our children to pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. We also pledge that we are one nation "under god." but to some, that's not true, thanks to liberal judges who wage tyrannical power against the citizens of this country. Power hungry politicians are more concerned about being politically correct, than morally wrong, and sell their vote to the highest bidder or support group, who will radically distort the mandate of our constitution to fit their agenda. How do we combat this insanity?

As concerned citizens and Christians, we need to display and read in our classrooms once again, and with pride, the Ten Commandments - the Judeo-Christian foundation of our entire constitutional system of law. We need to display them in other public buildings with as much pride as they are in the supreme court of the United States.

To our disgrace as a nation, we have caved in to the wishes of the depraved, and have allowed them to systematically exclude god from our midst. All at an incalculable cost to our very survival.

Like you, I am concerned about the safety and quality of life for our families and our community. As law enforcement officers it is our responsibility to protect our citizens and strive to reduce crime. I cannot help but wonder: is there a correlation between the sickening moral bankruptcy of today and the liberal court decisions that began in the '60s? As a people, we have failed to accept the hard evidence of subtle but dramatic destructive change that commenced in this country with those decisions of the United States Supreme Court.

As previously stated, the court interpreted acknowledging god, under whose protection we publicly place our nation, as a violation of the first amendment when it is recited in our public schools. For these reasons, and with an urgent cry, I state, wake up, America! Americans are being lulled into apathy and carelessness; be aware, there is an insidious scheme supported by the media, and Washington politicos that are robbing us of our true religious heritage and constitutional freedoms.

Our country is in great peril, not from an approaching army, but from a satanic pestilence that has already invaded our nation, with a drug-infested culture, littering our country and neighborhoods with untold corpses, and its collateral family damage. Crime will continue at a high level, our prisons will be overflowing, and unfortunately more of our brethren will be killed in the line of duty. It is the united state government prohibition against almighty god that continues to feed this immorality and insult his supreme majesty.

Until our nation puts god and the Ten Commandments back in our schools and the work place this moral decay will continue.

Duemellon
14 May 2005, 02:40 PM
...I feel safer already...

5-4=UNITY
14 May 2005, 02:42 PM
I sense sarcasm in the thread title. ;)

purple_octopus
14 May 2005, 02:42 PM
It won't allow me to put the number of rolleyes smilies that are actually appropriate for that speech.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

But that will have to do.

markalot
14 May 2005, 02:44 PM
He's said worse. :(

akip
14 May 2005, 02:45 PM
i can smell the resurrection of the militia movement on the horizon. onward christian soldiers.

Duemellon
14 May 2005, 02:45 PM
I just don't get how "American Taleban" doesn't fit?

He owns that fucking position. Has had it for decades it seems. He dictates law enforcement policies & holds these beliefs. I don't see how those beliefs can't find a way to manifest themselves in his actions in a position that is so subjetive.

akip
14 May 2005, 03:07 PM
it's obviously safe for the homophobes to come out of the closet. they're feeling mucho empowered.

rocketman70
14 May 2005, 03:12 PM
"Our country is in great peril, not from an approaching army, but from a satanic pestilence that has already invaded our nation,


Yeah, it's known as the Christian Right.

Now excuse me why I go throw up some more.

matt
14 May 2005, 03:16 PM
All the more reason to renew my subscription to Hustler.

postfeminist
14 May 2005, 03:20 PM
All the more reason to renew my subscription to Hustler.

priceless.

leis sucks.

ms. chevious
14 May 2005, 03:22 PM
All the more reason to renew my subscription to Hustler.


hehe. i always thought they should erect (pun intended) a 47' larry flynt statue across the interstate from the solid rock jesus.

...it seems strange that a man who, as due said, has this huge hold on law enforcement in the 'nati (and thus tons of power) believes that those with beliefs like him are marginalized in gov't? does he get the irony?

Duemellon
14 May 2005, 03:47 PM
...it seems strange that a man who, as due said, has this huge hold on law enforcement in the 'nati (and thus tons of power) believes that those with beliefs like him are marginalized in gov't? does he get the irony?Okay, time to count how many reprimands & how long they say he can't speak again...

oh wait... there will be no discipline? Well FUCK. : (

Shlep
14 May 2005, 03:58 PM
hehe. i always thought they should erect (pun intended) a 47' larry flynt statue across the interstate from the solid rock jesus.

In Oneida towards the Kentucky border, there's a massive porn warehouse and erected across from it is a massive cross. Kinda funny; looks like a simplistic diorama of the forces of Good and Evil battling it out.

Or maybe the cross people thought putting it up would cause the giant porn store and its clientele to shrink away like vampires driven back by the aura of its holiness.

ms. chevious
14 May 2005, 04:43 PM
due: perhaps i should clarify - in my original post, "he" meant sheriff si, not you.

been grading too many papers. i'm picking up my students' tendency to use pronouns w/o clarifying antecedents. sorry :)

The Hegemo
14 May 2005, 04:49 PM
Simon Leis is an evil fucker, but the e-mail that's circulating with this speech in it is apparently a hoax. It was some sheriff from America's Wang who actually wrote this:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1999/11-08-99/vo15no23_sheriff.htm

frizgolf
14 May 2005, 05:02 PM
"I cannot help but wonder: is there a correlation between the sickening moral bankruptcy of today and the liberal court decisions that began in the '60s?"
Oh, Si.
I always wondered when Herr Simon would start to lose it. The social changes of the 60s were brewing for decades. The judges of the day finally grew some balls and listened to people other than authorities for a change. What is moral bankruptcy? The freedom to speak, write, or sing what you feel, or suppressing those feelings in the name of "decency?"
Right wing radicals don't trust the tastes of the American people. If something's morally reprehensible enough, it will be shunned. The constitutional framers had to know the people of the nation would absorb every human characteristic thrown its way, or they never would have signed off on it.

postfeminist
14 May 2005, 05:26 PM
Simon Leis is an evil fucker, but the e-mail that's circulating with this speech in it is apparently a hoax. It was some sheriff from America's Wang who actually wrote this:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1999/11-08-99/vo15no23_sheriff.htm

no shit, huh?

well, whatev. si leis still sucks.

bjk15
14 May 2005, 05:37 PM
due: perhaps i should clarify - in my original post, "he" meant sheriff si, not you.

been grading too many papers. i'm picking up my students' tendency to use pronouns w/o clarifying antecedents. sorry :)
ant-e-ce-dents... i know i should know what that is...

wait, here it is: The word, phrase, or clause that determines what a pronoun refers to.

i'm guessing the grammar that i use is piss-poor, but oh well.

Duemellon
14 May 2005, 06:09 PM
one of the tragic things is, hoax or not, a good amount of us thought he was capable of saying such.

frizgolf
14 May 2005, 06:30 PM
Damn all these Onion type things!
I SO wanted this to be real.
Oh, well. He'll self destruct any year now.

Homsar
14 May 2005, 08:17 PM
violent crime (including domestic violence) has risen 600% over the last 30 years; teen suicide is up 300%; and depression among children is up 1000%.

Are these absolute number or rates?
Because there ARE more people around these days.

I'm sure all the good people in America are Christians who pray. I'm sure the recitation of prayers in public schools is going to amke a difference. I'm sure parenting has NOTHING to do with kids.

And seriously, I'm sure this guy is an ignorant asshole.

Orville Wrong
14 May 2005, 10:32 PM
one of the tragic things is, hoax or not, a good amount of us thought he was capable of saying such.
Tragic? I'd go with stupid.

The Hegemo
15 May 2005, 07:43 AM
one of the tragic things is, hoax or not, a good amount of us thought he was capable of saying such.

I have no doubt that he probably agrees with just about everything in here...if he got sent the hoax e-mail himself, he's probably kicking himself that he didn't say it first :rolleyes:

When I was in high school and the Mapplethorpe case was ongoing, a couple friends and I went to a free speech demonstration at the courthouse. There were probably a dozen protestors at most, but the entire length of the front of the courthouse was lined with armored riot police. Leis was standing behind them by the door with a big shit-eating grin on his face. What a wanker...

BTW, since we're on the subject of Der Fuehrer, did anyone else find their viewing of "The People vs Larry Flynt" ruined by the fact that James Carville got Simon Leis totally wrong? That really bugged me.

Phreon
15 May 2005, 11:33 PM
The sad thing is that Simon Leis (Lies?) has run unopposed for at least 15 years now. That sure is democracy, isn't it?

As a matter of principal, I've written in "Bozo the Clown" every opportunity I've had.

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ICONOCLAST420
16 May 2005, 06:06 AM
Simon Leis sucks.

The Hegemo
16 May 2005, 06:50 AM
As a matter of principal, I've written in "Bozo the Clown" every opportunity I've had.


Heh. "Robert Mapplethorpe" for me. ;)

supra-genius
16 May 2005, 07:53 AM
good old simple simon, same as he ever was....

ahart2001
16 May 2005, 08:06 AM
Just a question . . . was this speech given while on duty or on his own free time? Cause if it was in his free time, oh well, its his right. If it was in uniform on duty . . . thats no so good.

supra-genius
16 May 2005, 08:34 AM
Just a question . . . was this speech given while on duty or on his own free time? Cause if it was in his free time, oh well, its his right. If it was in uniform on duty . . . thats no so good.

As an elected official, he is always on duty... When they introduced him at the event, was it: "Here is Simon Leis, everyman" or was it "Ladies and Gentlemen, the Sheriff of Hamilton County, Simon Leis.."

Im just waiting for him to die off, but as they say, they devil you know is better then the devil you dont... :rolleyes:

ahart2001
16 May 2005, 08:44 AM
As an elected official, he is always on duty... When they introduced him at the event, was it: "Here is Simon Leis, everyman" or was it "Ladies and Gentlemen, the Sheriff of Hamilton County, Simon Leis.."

Im just waiting for him to die off, but as they say, they devil you know is better then the devil you dont... :rolleyes:

I disagree. That sounds alot like saying that if you become an elected official, you give up your right to freedom of speech and religion. I know the military has addressed this issue by saying soldiers cannot go to a rally or whatnot and make statements as a "soldier" (i.e. in uniform), but you may go off duty. If an elected official cannot state his opinions in his off hours, whats to say he should not be able to go to services on his holy day? One could argue that Luken holding his yearly Mayor's Prayer Breakfast or going to church on Sundays is showing a connection between church and state.

Everyone has personal beliefs and they has the right to follow them. The stipulation is to know when/where to express and apply them. The Sheriff has a job to uphold the law. He cannot pass sentencing or determine the law, all he can do is enforce what is handed down to him to enforce. Expecting public figures to be quiet, mindless puppets is a dangerous thing.

markalot
16 May 2005, 08:53 AM
In case you missed it,

THIS SPEECH NEVER HAPPENED, IT'S A HOAX.

Please carry on.

supra-genius
16 May 2005, 08:58 AM
Im not expecting them to be quiet, I stating there there is no difference between what he says in private and what he says as sheriff. The person doesnt change once he puts on the uniform. To me it doesnt matter whether he said it while he was standing on top of a cop car in full uniform or while hanging around on the golf course with his friends. Yes everyone is entitled to their beliefs and opinions as well as being able to spout them off whenever and whereever they see fit, I am also entitled to call him a narrow-minded, homophobic, bible-thumping, mouth-breathing moron when I see fit.

ahart2001
16 May 2005, 09:02 AM
Yes, you do have that right. :D

Handy Smurf
16 May 2005, 09:25 AM
In case you missed it,

THIS SPEECH NEVER HAPPENED, IT'S A HOAX.

Please carry on.
hmmm....
just wasted my time checking out this thread

Duemellon
17 May 2005, 03:09 PM
Note: Throughout this entire time I never said that Leis didn't say it. In fact, I just said it souned like something he would. However, it yurns out it was no waste of space. The reason why it seemed like something he'd say is becuase he actually said it.

My source was correct. Sounds like he just reiterated what someone else said. Simple as that.

It appears to be the correct speech.

Steve Barnett
Media/Community Relations
Hamilton County Sheriff's Office
513-946-6400

frizgolf
17 May 2005, 03:12 PM
Note: Throughout this entire time I never said that Leis didn't say it. In fact, I just said it souned like something he would. However, it yurns out it was no waste of space. The reason why it seemed like something he'd say is becuase he actually said it.

My source was correct. Sounds like he just reiterated what someone else said. Simple as that.
*casts wary glance at courthouse*

Duemellon
17 May 2005, 03:14 PM
Yes MaL, u were wrong, it is not a hoax. Hegemo, unfortunately you were wrong.

Let the discussion resume...

the happy prole
17 May 2005, 03:17 PM
So then Leis is a plagiarist as well?

Duemellon
17 May 2005, 03:24 PM
So then Leis is a plagiarist as well?not sure who the source is, but yep. Unoriginal thought regurgitator.

Whether he was on the clock or not, this is some ridiculously rightwinged JudeoXian fanatical shit & he's the main guy.

*shakes head*

And these are the things he had the courage to say, or the things he said that he felt wouldn't get him in trouble. Guess what? It didn't. He was right.

markalot
17 May 2005, 03:25 PM
In case your just tuning in...

THIS SPEACH WAS NOT A HOAX!

Thankyou.

frizgolf
17 May 2005, 03:28 PM
In case your just tuning in...

THIS SPEACH WAS NOT A HOAX!

Thankyou.
Deja v...
Wait, not going there again.

the happy prole
17 May 2005, 03:38 PM
not sure who the source is, but yep. Unoriginal thought regurgitator.

Why don't you write a letter to the newspaper and point out that his almost his entire speech was cribbed? No one likes a copycat.

Plus I looked up John MacDougal and he's much scarier than Leis. I bet even the staunchest conservatives up there still like pretending they are better than some unwashed Florida redneck smalltown sherrff.

markalot
17 May 2005, 03:47 PM
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silvertone32
18 May 2005, 07:05 PM
Is it me...or should I be brushing up on my goose stepping right now?