CityBeat

[Warrior]

I know not everyone here is from Cincinnati, but I was just wondering what those from Cincinnati thought about CityBeat. Sometimes they annoy me but it's still I good way to find something to do.

[CablinasianRam]

It's my favorite second favorite free paper, only trailing The Village Voice.

[burnsey]

it sucks not being able to get CityBeat anymore cause I'm in Columbus. They usually had some interesting stuff in there.

[redraven]

I really enjoyed it when I lived in Cinti (1987-1998), but I haven't read it since I left. I also liked the Downtowner, although it did have somewhat of a snobbish attitude.

[Slar]

They have a similar paper in Louisville. LEO. They're both okay, but I have trouble motivating myself to read through them.

[jneale]

For those that like it – are you old enough to remember “Everybody’s News?”

There just seemed to be more of an edge to EN vs. City Beat.

[redraven]

For those that like it – are you old enough to remember “Everybody’s News?”

There just seemed to be more of an edge to EN vs. City Beat.

My God, I forgot about Everybody's News. Actually, I believe it was EN that I read and loved when I lived in Cinti. Not sure if City Beat was even around for all that time.

[keyst2891]

The city papers are great for finding that bar or concert that I should go to. Other than that, I find the writing and the articles to be not as well done as they could be.

[Handy Smurf]

i really enjoy city beat when i find the time to read it
the last semester i took at uc i was reading city beat constantly when i was waiting for class to start, didnt feel like paying attention in class, etc.

[unwanted_sound]

My God, I forgot about Everybody's News. Actually, I believe it was EN that I read and loved when I lived in Cinti. Not sure if City Beat was even around for all that time.

citybeat has been around for just over 10 years, and I'm pretty sure there was some overlap between the two. But don't quote me on that.

I like Citybeat, but I really wish they covered more local politics. I don't think the enquirer does a very good job at it either. I've resorted to Citicable and just judge on my own now...

Are there better sources for local politics??

[InstantSoup]

For those that like it – are you old enough to remember “Everybody’s News?”

There just seemed to be more of an edge to EN vs. City Beat.


I totally remember Everybody's News. I remember reading articles out of it on my radio shows when I was on WAIF.

Good times. :)

[redraven]

I totally remember Everybody's News. I remember reading articles out of it on my radio shows when I was on WAIF.

Good times. :)

You were on WAIF? COOL! What show(s) did you host? I used to live in East Walnut Hills, and I loved their Cajun show, plus some others I can no longer remember. I think I even gave one year during their pledge drive.

[Duemellon]

CinWEEKLY is the debil.

'tis the Enquirer/Post's answer to City Beat.

[justa bill]

I am not a fan of CityBeat anymore. They are too negative. They make the the people in this city seem like we're a bunch of unhappy slobs who are too afraid to go somewhere else.

A few years ago, I used to write a letter almost every month challenging their stories and asking them to be more positive about the city in gereral. I gave up. I gave up reading it. I gave up even looking at the cover. I know a number of people the same way.

CinWeekly is basically a happy-go-lucky, good-times read. But you know what: it's a MUCH more accurate representation of my 10 year experience in this city. I've had good times. It needs more arts coverage, but nothing's perfect.

I liked it when Everybodies News was still around. When CityBeat's "Arts and Entertainment Weekly" slogan meant something. I still remember the week EN went away. CityBeat said they would have to take up the causes champianed by EN. But they've lost sight of their own mission. Yeah, there's some arts coverage inside, but you have to dig through 20 pages of "Cincinnati sucks" to find it.

They became a bunch of nay-sayers. And not worth reading... it's sad.

so if you work there, Warrior, tell them to lighten up. :]

[Duemellon]

They became a bunch of nay-sayers. And not worth reading... it's sad.we obviously have a different outlook on what this city is about & whether or not CityBeat reports "negative" stuff.

I guess you could've been one of those listening to the band play after the iceberg on Titanic.

[justa bill]

yeah, that's it. Cincinnati is burning... :rolleyes: So what have you done today to correct the situations you think are wrong?

I have fun in Cincinnati AND I volunteer a lot. It's what make living here enjoyable.

So whatever, King Duemellon. Get off your throne. Get out and live some. And let go of your hate.

[Duemellon]

yeah, that's it. Cincinnati is burning... :rolleyes: So what have you done today to correct the situations you think are wrong?I laid out my credentials before, but I don't need to do it to satisfy you. Do I? Really, if you don't accept the things I have done as a demonstration of me trying to make the situation better, then stop trying to compare yourself to me. I don't compare myself to you.I have fun in Cincinnati AND I volunteer a lot. It's what make living here enjoyable.I have fun in NEWPORT, or other places. Downtown Cincy? yah, every rare occassion.So whatever, King Duemellon. Get off your throne. Get out and live some. And let go of your hate.dude, forreal, you got personal quick. Why is that?

I mean, don't be too surprised when I say you're attacking me, because really...

you are.

Really, I just said we had differring view but you want to make it into some personal attack. WTG dude. WTG.

[justa bill]

hey, this is fun! :/

Duemellon,

1) I associate two things with your name: the title of "King" is one of them, and attacks against Cincinnati is another.

Trying to "stand for social justice" and proudly using a title that is steeped in a history of injustice discredits both claims.

2) I really haven't researched your good deeds. It's possible I missed that thread. But I asked the question so you could at least post a link to such a thread in your reply.

3) You compaired Cincinnati to the Titanic and me to someone standing around as it sinks. I live in this city by choice and I choose do a lot of things to help out, so you know what: that's a personal attack.

You don't get to have it both ways. Your either a King or a man of the people. You either do not attack people, or you do not complain about being challenged. Who quoted who? Do you even know what I mean?

[Duemellon]

Duemellon,

1) I associate two things with your name: the title of "King" is one of them, and attacks against Cincinnati is another.well, that will explain alot.Trying to "stand for social justice" and proudly using a title that is steeped in a history of injustice discredits both claims.wow...

A joke? Really. A joke? You're upset/w me b/c I used the title as a joke? OMG dude. Reeeeeeeeelax. I think there's a certain collection of ppl that felt that was some sign of "annointment" but really, being the King of a msgboard ain't much. I'm sure there are a few "gods" of the msgboard around here.

U'r kidding me dude, u'r upset/distraught about that? Really?2) I really haven't researched your good deeds.You didn't have to. I've laid them out a handful of times. If u missed them it might b b/c they didn't register b/c they didn't jibe/w ur assumptions about me. I'm not going to "lay them out" again b/c that excercise has proven futile. After all, my credentials will only b valid if u chose to accept them, but if u don't, we'll b back where we were. How's about u stop throwin ur credentials around (which I could easily discredit if u were to) & u stop askin for it.

U can't compare that kind've stuff to see who's "better". That's just a penile contest.3) You compaired Cincinnati to the Titanic and me to someone standing around as it sinks. I live in this city by choice and I choose do a lot of things to help out, so you know what: that's a personal attack.I live in this city by choice as well. "standing around"? U said u did stuff. I didn't say you were standing around, I said u'r listening to the band. More or less, I was implying, u'r thinking 'happy thoughts' while i"m thinkg "not-so-happy thoughts" about Cincy. You take that as a personal attack? Then that's a skewed perspective about what I say.You don't get to have it both ways. Your either a King or a man of the people. You either do not attack people, or you do not complain about being challenged. Who quoted who? Do you even know what I mean???

Dude, this whole discussion about my self-proclaimed-title-joke is just mundo-bizzaro man. Really. Am I going around saying that you're an absurd person for coming in trying to dictate a "law" saying I can't have it both ways when in fact, you're "just a bill'?

[unwanted_sound]

Okay, wow, I just want to say that I both love this city, and think it needs a lot of help. There are a lot of positive things here, and a lot of negative things. They both need coverage. Even if Citybeat is too negative, and I think it can be, I read it because I think some of the stories are worth reading. IMHO, cin weekly is just fluff, but it's good for some suggestions on dining, etc and overall I'm glad we have both around.

Sounds like you both are on the same page, because no matter what it is you're doing, you're both doing something to help.

And I probably should just be quiet on this one...

[classicgrrl]

Cincy Enq is too conservative and frankly the writing is subpar. The articles are too slanted. It's like Fox News on Paper.

Cin Weekly - wow! a paper written by highschool students. I've seen the kids (yes, they are kids) writing on this paper, they are all cute, skinny, stupid, and under 35. seriously. the writing is atrociously bad. I nominate this as the worst mainstream paper in the US. Yes, it really is that horrible.

CityBeat: so/so. I pick it up every once in awhile and it's ok. It's just "good enough" to quote someone. And yes, it can be pretty negative sometimes.

[classicgrrl]

I am not a fan of CityBeat anymore. They are too negative. They make the the people in this city seem like we're a bunch of unhappy slobs who are too afraid to go somewhere else.

A few years ago, I used to write a letter almost every month challenging their stories and asking them to be more positive about the city in gereral. I gave up. I gave up reading it. I gave up even looking at the cover. I know a number of people the same way.

CinWeekly is basically a happy-go-lucky, good-times read. But you know what: it's a MUCH more accurate representation of my 10 year experience in this city. I've had good times. It needs more arts coverage, but nothing's perfect.

I liked it when Everybodies News was still around. When CityBeat's "Arts and Entertainment Weekly" slogan meant something. I still remember the week EN went away. CityBeat said they would have to take up the causes champianed by EN. But they've lost sight of their own mission. Yeah, there's some arts coverage inside, but you have to dig through 20 pages of "Cincinnati sucks" to find it.

They became a bunch of nay-sayers. And not worth reading... it's sad.

so if you work there, Warrior, tell them to lighten up. :]

CityBeat aint that bad and CinWeekly for absolute certain ain't that good. And lay off of Due. Seems with all the volunteer work you do you've got your own high horsey there....

This is about Cincy's papers not about Cincy. Cincy is a city just like any other mid town in the US. We do have the highest income dispartity of any other city outside of Miami FL however...

[postfeminist]

ah, i remember Everybody's...it was the shit...

[markalot]

I guess you could've been one of those listening to the band play after the iceberg on Titanic.

That IS a personal attack Due, come on. You could have had a better conversation without all the fricking dramatics don't you think?

[Duemellon]

That IS a personal attack Due, come on. You could have had a better conversation without all the fricking dramatics don't you think?Isn't that where it starts? I really don't see how it is a personal attack.

i didn't call him an idiot. I didn't call him a hypocrite. What I did was make an analogy saying that he chose to see it as "good enuf to be happy about" & I didn't.

But that's where it all starts. Something someone says that they feel isn't a personal attack being taken as one. So the "victim" retorts/w one & it escalates.

[unwanted_sound]

Cincy Enq is too conservative and frankly the writing is subpar. The articles are too slanted. It's like Fox News on Paper.

CityBeat: so/so. I pick it up every once in awhile and it's ok. It's just "good enough" to quote someone. And yes, it can be pretty negative sometimes.

So what alternatives are there in the city? I mean, we've got:

Enquier/Post
Citybeat
Cin Weekly
Downtowner

Is there really anything else? (that isn't specific to an area (ESJ, Suburban rags, etc) that provides some kind of quality coverage? It's fine to call Citybeat negative, and criticize CinWeekly (which I do), but they cater to specific audiences. What about on-line? Somebody help me out here...

[Phreon]

I remember Everybody's News fondly (that is when I wasn't busy running from Pterodactyles on the attack, chisling my research papers into a stone tablet or inventing fire).

The Enquirer has really dropped in quality the last few years and the Post never was that good.

CinWeekly is suitable for wrapping fish and Citybeat has unfortunately degenerated from an interesting read into a club of "writers" attempting to impress eachother with their pseudo-intellectual, myopic rants. I'm starting to believe the editors of that rag view it as their own personal editorial forum.

What's the alternative? I don't know. Get out and explore the city on your own. Who the hell needs to read a catfish wrapper full of junior high quality writing to tell them what to do anyway? And why on earth would anyone admit their life parallels the half rate screed in free weekly anyway?

Phreon

[jps]

there is a book by a bob woodiwuss that wrote for citybeat that is a lot of fun called: keys to uncomfortable living-an indulgence of my peculiarities an indictment o yours. that is really fun!! you should read it.

[Orville Wrong]

What's the alternative? I don't know. Get out and explore the city on your own. Who the hell needs to read a catfish wrapper full of junior high quality writing to tell them what to do anyway? And why on earth would anyone admit their life parallels the half rate screed in free weekly anyway?
Here, here. Head up to Dayton sometime and flip through our 16-page birdcage liner.

I could decimate the budget and fire all the writers, yet still produce something twice as good by expanding the letters page and buying good syndicated writing and cartooning. Oh yeah, and strippers for ad reps.

[classicgrrl]

there is a book by a bob woodiwuss that wrote for citybeat that is a lot of fun called: keys to uncomfortable living-an indulgence of my peculiarities an indictment o yours. that is really fun!! you should read it.

very good book.
but he was published in Citybeat. I don't think he was on their staff. At least thats not the impression I got when I spoke with him when he signed at my old store.

[classicgrrl]

So what alternatives are there in the city? I mean, we've got:

Enquier/Post
Citybeat
Cin Weekly
Downtowner

Is there really anything else? (that isn't specific to an area (ESJ, Suburban rags, etc) that provides some kind of quality coverage? It's fine to call Citybeat negative, and criticize CinWeekly (which I do), but they cater to specific audiences. What about on-line? Somebody help me out here...
not that I know of. start your own....seriously. I don't know of anything on line....

[twentyshots]

Everybody's News was great, and I don't think I am being overly nostalgic. My beef with City Beat is that it comes off as arrogant and exclusive. This would not bother me if it offered something a little multi-dimensional, but they do seem to beat the same drum over and over. I wish I liked it more.
My bias extends to their arts scene too. I am an artist myself and went many years trying to garner some basic attention- nothing exorbitant, just providing images and information for show listings and they almost always ignored it. Maybe I was spoiled by Everybody's but CityBeat has never done me any favors.

[justa bill]

CityBeat aint that bad and CinWeekly for absolute certain ain't that good. And lay off of Due. Seems with all the volunteer work you do you've got your own high horsey there....

This is about Cincy's papers not about Cincy. Cincy is a city just like any other mid town in the US. We do have the highest income dispartity of any other city outside of Miami FL however...

classicgrrl, I really am not going to get in a "quote/returt/quote/returt" session about this, so please don't take offence. but I am kind of confused about where my "high horsey" came into the picture.

I aswered the question that the thread asked. Unprovoked, Duemellon compaired me to a person of leasure who stands around as a ship sinks.

Which very much raised the question: "what have YOU done lately?" Which I asked Duemellon, and he said he would not answer it because, appariently, he has told me before. I think he is thinking of someone else, but that's OK.

I think Duemellon wants it both ways; he wants to joke and he wants to be serious at the same time. He wants to challenge people, but is offended if treated the same way. Oh well. "quote/retort/quote/retort"... :l

--

But back to the topic, I used to live for CityBeat. Savage Love and the Straight Dope (interesting pairing:-), The City, Squint, Pseudoquasiesque, and band info as well. Then, they decided they were the "voice of the city", and the city really didn't like itself. After being told the city sucks every week... I just gave up.

It took a real negative tone. Anyone can point out problems, but after doing that for too long solutions should be provided as well.

Walked by Moose on Main earlier. Jean-Robert is on the cover as the Person of the Year. That's encouraging; he's actually working to make a more enjoyable city, and it's good to see it recognized.

Here's to a positive '05! :]

[onest2.0]

CityBeat has its good weeks and bad weeks, though I have noticed the papers been pretty thin lately. I pick it up mainly for the music section, which I think is its strongest feature (second only to the bitchin sex chatline ads in the back). I read the city/politics stuff if I feel like it, sometimes its good sometimes its downright horrible, but I accept it for what it is, an alternative weekly newspaper in a mid-size midwestern city. I'm not looking for pulitzer prize caliber material when I pick up the paper. Its something I read while I'm drinking coffee or eating lunch.

[Duemellon]

Unprovoked, Duemellon compaired me to a person of leasure who stands around as a ship sinks.3rd try..

My intent was to show how, despite how bad things are you'd rather look on the cheery side. Again, I've retold this view, but you still want to take it as a slight against your efforts in the community.

ok, if u won't hear clarification, stay stuck in your original understanding, not much I can do about that.I think he is thinking of someone else, but that's OK.no, i told the msgboard, several times over & others have even told about my escapades. However, it's less about proving myself & more about "credentialling" which ends up being a battle of comparisons & subjective "what have you done that I care about" stuff.

You don't need qualifications to have an opinion, they might help, but really, you should be able to entertain naive thoughts.I think Duemellon wants it both ways; he wants to joke and he wants to be serious at the same time. He wants to challenge people, but is offended if treated the same way. Oh well. "quote/retort/quote/retort"... :lno man, it's more complex than that. I have this feeling you'd like it to be as simple as that, but it ain't.

What I said was an analogy. You took some parts of it to mean something I did not mean. I've cleared it up, you ignore my clarification & still hang on to your original interpretation. How can a conversation be made if you intentionally disregard clarification of views?

[twentyshots]

Quote:"But back to the topic, I used to live for CityBeat. Savage Love and the Straight Dope (interesting pairing:-), The City, Squint, Pseudoquasiesque, and band info as well. Then, they decided they were the "voice of the city", and the city really didn't like itself."

I agree, and it was at this point that I paid less attention too.
Derf and Tom tomorrow are great. Savage Love was pretty interesting sometimes.

[mikeatthemadfro]

I like citybeat, generally.
We had this discussion earlier...I think the music section is amazing...functional, organized and insightful...

I MISS SAVAGE LOVE!!!!

I know I can get him on line, but...it was my main reason for picking up the paper...

citybeat provides an alternative voice in a staunchly entrenched mindset of a city...so it's necessary...


cinweekly,

Is as cG points out, not "serious" journalism...but, neither is USA today...

cinweekly is very popular (the most popular among it's type of paper in Gannett) because it doesn't take itself too seriously...or too critically, and if you're looking for a light read...mainly taking a mental break, or looking for less critical stuff focused on the 20-30 demo...that's what you get...


I too liked everybody's news....


rip.

[jneale]

The decision to put Savage Love only on-line is an example – Citybeat is too conservative. It is funny – they sponsored a book signing @ Joe Beths – he thanked them for being brave & keeping him in the paper when others were dropping him due to conservative pressure – the very next week they put him on-line only.

There will never be a Queen of Corryville in Citybeat. Give me a rag that doesn’t worry about Meijer or Kroger not allowing it in their vestibule.

I get it each week for movie times & Steve Ramos’ thoughts on recent releases. I enjoy his pieces – but I use the first 2/3 of the paper each week to absorb my tortoise’s urine.

[Warrior]

I personally never liked Savage Love too much so I didn't care when he went online.

[matt]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/thepsychicpilot/IAMDUE.jpg

[PH Fancyboy]

Cin Weekly is as white bread as a Friday night in Mount Lookout. Won't ever take a stance on anything - a baby boy has more balls. They cross-promote the shit out of it with the Enquirer & Channel 9, and they're in existence to suck ad money from Citybeat.

Citybeat on the other hand, now runs scared. They lost a lot of their distribution points like Kroger's not so much cuz they pissed in people's cornflakes, but that bigname merchants aren't going to run the risk of catching hell from every west side soccer mom who doesn't like what they print. There isn't enough foot-traffic in solely 'alternative' minded locations to help them grow and unlike larger cities, there aren't enough bodies in town that think having an altnews/entertainment paper that tells it like it is is worth fighting for. Baaa...

[Handy Smurf]

Okay, wow, I just want to say that I both love this city, and think it needs a lot of help. There are a lot of positive things here, and a lot of negative things. They both need coverage. Even if Citybeat is too negative, and I think it can be, I read it because I think some of the stories are worth reading. IMHO, cin weekly is just fluff, but it's good for some suggestions on dining, etc and overall I'm glad we have both around.

Sounds like you both are on the same page, because no matter what it is you're doing, you're both doing something to help.

And I probably should just be quiet on this one...
I think you hit the nail on the head. I agree with all of the above. I would also like to add, to anyone who thinks this city is perfect, you're naive-to anyone who thinks any city is perfect, you're senile-to anyone who thinks that its really worth putting in the time and effort to constantly complain about the city you live in, well, these are the types of people that usually have the uncanny ability to bring out the worst in any situation. Everything has its ups and downs, what you decide to focus on is what's going to create your perspective.

[classicgrrl]

classicgrrl, I really am not going to get in a "quote/returt/quote/returt" session about this, so please don't take offence. but I am kind of confused about where my "high horsey" came into the picture.

I aswered the question that the thread asked. Unprovoked, Duemellon compaired me to a person of leasure who stands around as a ship sinks.

Which very much raised the question: "what have YOU done lately?" Which I asked Duemellon, and he said he would not answer it because, appariently, he has told me before. I think he is thinking of someone else, but that's OK.

I think Duemellon wants it both ways; he wants to joke and he wants to be serious at the same time. He wants to challenge people, but is offended if treated the same way. Oh well. "quote/retort/quote/retort"... :l

you said due was arrogant (for the most part). I think its arrogant to brag about how much volunteer work you do. I don't think the question of "what have you done lately" was begged but apparantly I don't think or interpret stuff like other people

i mean hell, if you're gonna beg, beg for money not questions.
_________________________________________
due: people ignore too much of the bad that goes on this city

bill: people are too negative and down on the city

neither the twain shall meet.

me: the whole world is shit and can't be fixed so we should all ignore it. pass the tator chips.

[classicgrrl]

to anyone who thinks that its really worth putting in the time and effort to constantly complain about the city you live in, well, these are the types of people that usually have the uncanny ability to bring out the worst in any situation. Everything has its ups and downs, what you decide to focus on is what's going to create your perspective.

it takes no effort - it just comes natural.

somebody has to be debbie downer, might as well be me.

[jps]

is there a connotation difference between complaining and say, critical evaluation? i can like something and be critical of the way things are at the same time in hopes of making things better. so in trying to focus on things from every side, you don't get locked into one perspective, rather you are able to see the bad things and the good things and evaluate from there.

plus if complaining comes natural, what are you gonna do? can't fight nature.


p.s. right on regarding the bob woodiwuss book... i was drunk when i posted that i think. good book either way.

[justa bill]

See, I just think that Everybody'sNews was honest about the reason they existed. CityBeat was the "A and E weekly"... but they turned into a spot for almost only highly critical views of life in this town. In my opinion, the attitude of 'Cincinnati sucks' came to pervade everything they did. Like I've said, I gave up.

A friend of mine works for a market research firm downtown, and a couple of years ago she told me to stop by Fountain Sq. during lunch because they'd be asking people what they'd like to see in a possible new free weekly. A number of us had been talkling about how CityBeat had turned into a real negative voice about Cinci... she kept me in mind.

In otherwords, CW was created to fill a big freaking hole in Cincinnati's publications market.

Occasionally, I click on a CinWeekly link when I'm at Cincinnati.com checking the weather or what not. And I LOOK through it for one or two pages if i'm getting coffee. It was always pretty obivious the CW was produced by the same people as the Enquirer... it is right there in the credits or whatever, and they use the same writers, don't they.

Anyway, I think it's good to have them both around. CB keeps some people honest, maybe. (They sure dropped the ball on the new Kroger garage if that's their mission though...) and CW is "fluff" sure--just like the Food Network and Good Morning America and the like are fluff. But it shows a side of Cincinnati that no one else does.

case in point: tonight, i check to see how cold it is and I see this: http://www.cinweekly.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=LIFE05

pictures from a Karioke contest at Hamburger Mary's. Karrioke isn't my thing--hell, i no idea how to even spell it, but I hear it's always fun at Mary's. My neighbor does a mean Neil Diamond and he like going down there. So, yeah, pure fluff--a CinWeekly-sposered Kariokee contest, but, hell, people like that kind of fluff and it goes on all the time.

anyway. jus' sayin'... if you want to see the "dump of the week" or whatever with your 15 minutes of free time, CityBeat's probably right for you. and if you want to see fluffy pictures of people singing Carry O'Key (maybe) pickup CinWeekly. free country. whatever.



--ps. a shout out to the chick in the 'foxy' t-shirt--that's my friend Alicia... a big fluffy shout out to Foxy! (she's a karrioke pro! : )

[classicgrrl]

it is right there in the credits or whatever, and they use the same writers, don't they.

No. They hired a younger, nicer looking staff to do their CinWeekly paper-and then promptly fired their fine arts staff (ie: Larry Nager). 1. Saved Money and 2. Cater to the "creative class"

I give it 2-3 years before it's dropped. By then the "creative class" will be having babies and moving into the suburbs for decent school systems....

BTW- I didn't comment on CinWeekly's choice of storylines - I commented on the shitty writing. CityBeat may be negative but at least it's readable. Sorry Bill, fluff or no fluff-I cannot stand crappy writing.

[aqualou]

simply, cin weekly is 50% bigger and has 1/2 the info. the event listings are WAY to long dividing into date, section of town, type. it's like 12 pages long and citybeat can wrap that up in 2. perhaps then you would have movie listings. which is another thing. cin weekly is so afraid of offending anyone, they won't even review, critic and even grade a new movie. movies they do mention are either big box office or yesterday's indie news. at least keeep step with trends.

simply i find cin weekly to be the suck up kid of the class, the cheerleader that lets the suburbanites feel better and says "everything's a-ok". if that's your cup of tea, then pick it up. i however can't swallow their shiny happy give credit where winds up. people did want a alternate to citybeat to "take the edge off", but i however would like to keep my edge well intact.




that is all :cool:

[justa bill]

Sorry Bill, fluff or no fluff-I cannot stand crappy writing.

funny, i really never read the articles... in either paper. :] that's not really why I ever pick up those kind of papers. I don't know that I have even read a Village Voice article. I know that I don't even read many Enquirer articles either...

Now, NYTimes articles... I read about five of those a day.

The local free weeklies should be provide a medium to reflect, connect and promote the life of the city. If not, why the hell bother?

The Chicago Reader kind of mixes the two papers, but it clearly delineates its different sections. CityBeat publishes opinion letters under their "News" section all the time. Least they used to... really haven't looked in over year...

[Duemellon]

funny, i really never read the articles... but CityBeat is down on Cincy, while CinW is up-&-up... how can u tell? Just by the article titles?

[classicgrrl]

Must be, cause he sure seems to know alot about them. Or maybe he does it by osmosis. :D :p

now now be nice.

you really don't have to read the CinWeekly to get an idea of what they are about. and the fact that he doesn't read the articles kinda of speaks volumes about a newspaper doesn't it?

perhaps they should ditch the words all together and just use black and white hand gestures w/illustrated stick figures. would say just as much and cost very little as they could fire the whole staff....

[aqualou]

maybe we should do a quick compare of this week's citybeat vs this weeks cin weekly.

[mikeatthemadfro]

ok...

I've got a CW and it's cover is about "getting organized."

Tips on getting your life organized.

Anyone got a Citybeat?