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Duemellon
02 Dec 2004, 06:26 PM
Which historical figure would u like to:

Reanimate to life
They would be at the peak of health, with all the knowledge they had, and would live a normal lifespan again.

Rewrite their life
You could take one part, all parts, or whatever, and change the detail you talk about, but the rest of their life would remain the same.

Rescue
You could prevent someone from dying an untimely death from assassination, execution, accident, disease, or whatever.

I'm curious to find out who they are, why you would reanimate this one, rewrite that one, and rescue the other. I haven't thought about which three people I'd do that to.

markalot
02 Dec 2004, 08:11 PM
Reanimate: Einstein


Can't decide on the others.

Homsar
02 Dec 2004, 08:24 PM
Lots of people could help us, but Einstein is a good choice for reanimation.

I would rewrite Hitler's life to put in some more positive achievements than all the rejections, failures, and disappointments he had.

I would rescue Jesus from his untimely ascension.
Just to see if he's real.
It's quite a conundrum, isn't it? If we only had positive proof that God existed, we'd be set for life (and death as well), but people say we should have faith without doubting. According to Jesus, doubting isn't the best of things.

yoshomon
02 Dec 2004, 09:44 PM
Reanimate: Karl Marx

Rewrite their life: Robert Frost. I'd kill him the day he learned how to write. Frost is by far the worst writer in the history of the english language, and going back in time to kill him would save me a lot of anger and frustration.

Rescue: Barry Horne.

JSpaceman
02 Dec 2004, 09:55 PM
I'll think the other ones over later... for now it's only rescue John Lennon....

Duemellon
02 Dec 2004, 10:20 PM
Okay, sorry, forgot the game part, it consists of the what ifs...

So I'd like to know how you think this person's life would be better because of the choice you made with it.

Like Einstein. What would he do? He's got a full life to live again, right here, right now, he knows all about "the bomb" and now more about space than he could've possibly dreamed. Where do you think he'd go?

Run for office? Rewrite his own theories? Become an actor? How would you steer him in that direction?

Hitler? Rewrite what about his life? Like when he becomes the dictator of Germany have him make an humanitarian effort to the underprivilaged nations in Europe? or go to war against Italy to remove Benito's Facism?

Who is Barry Home & what would he do for us if he didn't die in an untimely manner?

Duemellon
02 Dec 2004, 10:48 PM
Reanimate:
Malcolm Shabazz el-Hajj

No, not rescue b/c he did what he needed to do back then.I'd reanimate him for today. His ability to rally people and get a message across is stunning & I think the disenfranchised folks of today need a leader who can get them to organize. The only problem is that he was a great speaker but doesn't come across as a great strategist. Making sure his charisma works to actually make a change is the biggest concern I have.

Rewrite:
Benito Mussolini

So he didn't take power in a coup, but actually took power through helping the government regain it's strength through inclusion. He didn't know how to run a sustainable government, just one that got powerful quickly and had to maintain it's strength through acquisition.

If Benito provided a model of freedom and inclusion Hitler would not have admired him and mimicked him.

Rescue:
(I so want to say Hendrix, but that would only effect music)
Lincoln

He had a plan for reconstruction that, I believe, was nicer and more inclusive. Nowhere near as oppressive & punitive as his successor. It could've meant a better way of life for us and (this is a stretch, I know) avoiding the depression of the 1930's. I'm not too sure how Civil Rights would've turned out, but I think Abraham was a bit more of a libertarian than we think. He was just limited by getting something done rather than getting a bunch of really good nothings done.

yoshomon
03 Dec 2004, 12:52 AM
Barry Horne was a British member of the Animal Liberation Front who starved to death in prison while on hungerstrike. He gave his life to stop vivisection and now every year there is a week of action against vivisection to remember him.

It's people like Barry, who put everything on the line to fight for those who can't fight for themselves, that I consider my heroes.

markalot
03 Dec 2004, 09:56 AM
A rewrite of Hitler is interesting, but I wonder if we are better off because he existed and showed us what true evil is like? In other words, if he did not exist would something else better / worse have happened? Imperial Japan comes to mind.

Duemellon
03 Dec 2004, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by markalot
Imperial Japan comes to mind. But Japan's ability to invade China was limitd by it's own resources. The Axis powrs had to b very aggressiv in securin resources to supply themselvs so keepin the infrastruction in the lands they were invadin was very important. They needd to turn those captured lands into producers of resources almost instantly.

Those three nations could nevr have sustaind anythin but a modest gain. Manchuria, Poland, Austria, & North Africa. There is no way they could maintain a full domination of France, there'd b a North & South France. Norway might'v bcome a sattelite, but Brittain would'v retaind sovereignty.

Then we probably would'v had a 3 way Cold War, but they (the Axis) would'v been the 1st to fall.

Of course all that is just hypothetical crap in my own head.

But enuf of that.. MaL? Who would u reanimate/rescue/rewrite?

purple_octopus
04 Dec 2004, 12:00 AM
Reanimate:

I would bring back Charles Bukowski and let him knock out a few more books. I would do this selfishly, solely for my own entertainment.

Rewrite:

I would rewrite Stephen Hawking's life to exclude his suffering from ALS. Although Hawking has said that his illness has helped his career in giving him more time to think, he is still unable to easily communicate his ideas and even do computations without help. I can only imagine how much more prolific his work would be if he did not have these limitations.

Rescue:

I suppose I would like for Martin Luther King, Jr. to have been spared from assasination. Although who knows if the fervor that continued to boost the civil rights movement after his death would have died down if his followers had not been able to come together from that loss. I'll just say MLK, assuming that the civil rights movement would have made more progress more quickly with his continued involvement.

Duemellon
06 Dec 2004, 11:26 AM
Anyone else?

bluewilco
06 Dec 2004, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by Duemellon
Anyone else?

I'm still thinking, this is a toughie.

I would question your choice to bring back Lincoln, though. As much of a good guy he was, you should all read "Lies My Teacher Told Me." You'd find out some interesting stuff about him, as well as other historical figures portrayed nicely or as heroes in text books and basic history.

purple_octopus
06 Dec 2004, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by bluewilco

...you should all read "Lies My Teacher Told Me." You'd find out some interesting stuff about him, as well as other historical figures portrayed nicely or as heroes in text books and basic history.

Great book. I second bluewilco's recommendation. If I ever accidentally had a kid, I would make this mandatory reading. "Don't Know Much About History" by Kenneth C. Davis is a good one, too.

Duemellon
06 Dec 2004, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by bluewilco
I would question your choice to bring back Lincoln, though. As much of a good guy he was, you should all read "Lies My Teacher Told Me."Well, I'm aware he wasn't for intergration, & he didn't consider blacks equal. In fact, his push for the liberation was economically motivated. The morality of the situation had to do more about the quality of life for the Northerners.

However, being specific, I wanted to bring him back for the South's sake. The reintegration of the South into the Union may have been much more compassionate.

As for the fate of the black man? I think it would've turned out the same.

BOBROX123
06 Dec 2004, 03:31 PM
Reanimate: Socrates
And have him at the head of the UN. Some application of the Socratic Method of Logical Thinking in the UN would be very useful. Questioning everything and accepting that you know nothing is a long lost trait.