after the election

[jps]

So once the election is over (say around inauguration day in January), how do you plan on being active politically if your side loses?
Either side... because one of them is going to lose.

And third parties as well...

[ianalex20]

When Bush wins, Im going to post "I told you so" everyday for the next 4 years!

[yoshomon]

If Bush wins, we're going to start WW3.

If Kerry wins, we're going to be hit by tons of enormous terrorist attacks.

You pro-election folks are goofy.

[Wolverine]

Originally posted by ianalex20
When Bush wins, Im going to post "I told you so" everyday for the next 4 years!

****warning sarcasm crossing ahead****





That would be extremely constructive for this once great republic. Let the healing begin...

[Wolverine]

Originally posted by yoshomon
If Bush wins, we're going to start WW3.

If Kerry wins, we're going to be hit by tons of enormous terrorist attacks.

You pro-election folks are goofy.

Well WWIII has already begun in my opinion. As to your second statement regarding a Kerry victory, that is extremely possible. If a lockdown is called for, the backers of the party in charge will mostly support the policy (because it's their guy) and the hard line conservatives will willingly give up some more freedoms to gain more of that ephemeral security thing.

[Jeff59]

If my side loses I plan on tuning out politics and becoming apolitcal and apathetic and getting into other things. I'll probably still vote, but maybe not...

[markalot]

good grief

You young'ins think your time is so damn important, get over it. Not only is this NOT the most important election of 'our' time it's also not going to change much of anything for the next 4 years.



dag nabit

[despondent]

I am seriously considering joining the Libertarian Party and maybe work on the local level to raise its profile

[Duemellon]

au contrair MaL

This will b the most important presidential election I'v been involved in. Oh, ok, not really contrair but just needd to point that out.

As for WW3 happenin if Bush stays? nope. That'll happen a term or two after he's gone, but it'll b there b/c of his wonderful efforts. & as for more terrorist attacks b/c of Kerry? I'm sure u must'v put that up there to appease the rightwingers or somethin b/c that's just plain silly.

Me?

goin to dinner aftrwards.

If the guy I'm votin for wins, I still plan on doin some othr things here & there. Most of it will b an effort to change society thru concepts not legislation. If Bush wins? I'll start learnin German.

[Necromancer]

Working to open people's eyes two at a time.

[Buzzstein]

I'll dig a hole and hide in it

[yoshomon]

When the Unabomber wins, I'm going to (hopefully) become an ambassador.

[Homsar]

I'm going to really pay attention to the next 4 years of the victor. What he does will help shape my opinion of the government in time for the next election. Will what happens be what we thought? That will help me decide who makes a good president.

[Duemellon]

unfortunately most ppl postd about how they'd gloat or moan, not about how they'd take advantage of the other avenues of democracy.

I worry that such things hints at the system's ability to supress our participation by sayin that votin is the only real way/effectiv way to participate in our govnt.

So it's like we don't elect representativs, we elect emperors.

[wileE]

Originally posted by markalot
good grief

You young'ins think your time is so damn important, get over it. Not only is this NOT the most important election of 'our' time it's also not going to change much of anything for the next 4 years.



dag nabit

Well said. Is there a depression? Are we on the brink of a thermonuclear war? Are millions dying in battles raging across Europe? Oh, you're stock is down a few points? The horror!!!

Originally posted by despondent
I am seriously considering joining the Libertarian Party and maybe work on the local level to raise its profile

This is what I am thinking.

[cockney rebel]

Originally posted by ianalex20
When Bush wins, Im going to post "I told you so" everyday for the next 4 years! Even when you're kicked out of your job and then conscripted to go and fight your hero's war in Iraq?

[onest2.0]

I'll be partying in Northside.

The Chocolate Horse, 4192 @ Northside Tavern

Bamboo Kids, The Sundressed, Viva La Foxx @ The Comet

[weezer6]

i'll be happy either way. if bush wins, then i'll have voted for the winner. if kerry wins, i'll have a gauranteed job for life, so i'm set.

[Czarna Owca]

The main issue, as I see it, will be to keep people in my age range informed. We need to keep up with events after the election is over, no matter who wins.
The problem with getting college students to keep themselves informed: "That means a lot of reading and I've already got a couple chapters to read in Euro. Civ. and a play to read for Drama Lit. That's too many words."

I'm going to be as annoying as possible over the next four years to make people my age pay attention to what's going on.

[akip]

i'll always be a political junkie, so that won't change.

i'll keep participating in email campaigns to put pressure on the media and the fcc, because it's proven to have an impact.

[vivalamusica]

If Bush wins, I'll wallow in my own pity and alienation.


For about a day.

Then I'll stay current on issues, try to keep others informed, and hold my congressman's feet to the fire on issues I care about. And start looking towards the 2008 election.

Hopefully, though, it won't be an issue.

[Chespo]

Originally posted by wileE


Is there a depression? Are we on the brink of a thermonuclear war? Are millions dying in battles raging across Europe? Oh, you're stock is down a few points? The horror!!!By conservative estimates, there have been over 14,000 Iraqi civilians killed since the beginning of the invasion. Why don't you go stand in the midst of their families and say something glib?

It's a fact that the Bush administration came into power with an Iraqi invasion in mind, and 9/11 merely provided the excuse. Perhaps Iran will be next, perhaps Syria after that... Pakistan is our ally now, but they're a military dictatorship with nuclear weapons and an unstable relationship with their neighbor; how long before we throw out our double-standard and decide to "liberate" them as well? Don't tell me that nothing's likely to change under a different administation.:rolleyes:

[eyeball]

either way I am just going to sit back and continue to hope that my husband doesn't get called back to finish out his year and a half the army has him...though if they call him back they can now keep him indefinately and send him BACK to Iraq. 6 years in the army was enough. fuck. I do hate war.

[wileE]

Originally posted by Chespo
By conservative estimates, there have been over 14,000 Iraqi civilians killed since the beginning of the invasion. Why don't you go stand in the midst of their families and say something glib?

It's a fact that the Bush administration came into power with an Iraqi invasion in mind, and 9/11 merely provided the excuse. Perhaps Iran will be next, perhaps Syria after that... Pakistan is our ally now, but they're a military dictatorship with nuclear weapons and an unstable relationship with their neighbor; how long before we throw out our double-standard and decide to "liberate" them as well? Don't tell me that nothing's likely to change under a different administation.:rolleyes:

Why don't you go talk to those people about what it was like while Hussein was in power? How many Iragi civilians did he kill?

Plus, I don't remember saying anything glib about Iraq in my post.

[Chespo]

Originally posted by wileE


Why don't you go talk to those people about what it was like while Hussein was in power? How many Iragi civilians did he kill?

Plus, I don't remember saying anything glib about Iraq in my post. Markalot was glib about this not being the most important election in many boarders' lifetimes- I'd venture to say that most of them weren't around during Cuba and the Kennedy assassinations, were too young to feel the palpable threat of the cold war and have never before felt:
a) this sense of unease about their country's (and the world's) future, and
b) such a fervent need to be a part of the political process.

In addition, I feel that you were glib about the effects of the current political situation by comparing it to the depression and WWII. To imply that this isn't a crisis of great (and potentially much worse) proportions is to disrespect those who are actually dying or maimed because of WMDs that didn't exist, those who now face increased unrest in their own countries because of their leaders' relationships with the US, those who have seen first-hand the increasingly police-state "us and them" mentality bred here at home by the Homeland Security culture of fear, and those of middle-eastern and south-asian descent living in the US who are now viewed with suspicion and hostility because some Americans believe they're part of the enemy.

And since you're trying to put things in perspective, we didn't go into Iraq to free the Iraqis from an oppressive regime- we went in because the administration convinced the American people that Saddam Hussein was an immediate threat to our well being. If the US government was so fired up about freedom, we would have taken more immediate steps in Cambodia and Rwanda. Atrocious human suffering in impoverished countries with no natural resources? Eh, they'll work it out amongst themselves, right?

[PeterABnny]

Originally posted by ianalex20
When Bush wins, Im going to post "I told you so" everyday for the next 4 years!


You'll also be wearing a bull's-eye, you jackass, because come next terrorist attack we'll all be gunning for your worthless ass!

"We can either fight the terrorists abroad, or we can face them here," indeed....

[cjd]

I'm going to look into this Libertarian thing a little more because I don't hate fags or guns.

[ajax]

I am drinking for kerry if he wins. If bush wins I will drink my sorrows away. Win or loose I booze.

[PeterABnny]

If Kerry wins, there should be no celebrating, 'cause the mess that Dumbass has left this country and the world at large in will not be cleaned up and resolved in four years and one presidency. I'd argue it'll take decades to repair the damage done by Bush & Co.

If Bush wins, I'll be moving to Canada and taking dual-citizenship (it's SO nice to already have one foot in the country through marriage!).

Regardless of who takes the White House, though, somehow I have to believe that America will endure in the end. We Yankees are a very resilient lot. Through civil war, the depression of the 1930s, the turbulence of the 1960s (where I heard people literally worried that the end of the American Empire was truly at hand), in spite of terroist attacks and all the little Ianalexes running around that make our lives miserable, we will continue. But if George "Big Business" Bush takes the elections, all I can say is God help the United States of America.

[wileE]

Originally posted by Chespo
Markalot was glib about this not being the most important election in many boarders' lifetimes- I'd venture to say that most of them weren't around during Cuba and the Kennedy assassinations, were too young to feel the palpable threat of the cold war and have never before felt:
a) this sense of unease about their country's (and the world's) future, and
b) such a fervent need to be a part of the political process.

In addition, I feel that you were glib about the effects of the current political situation by comparing it to the depression and WWII. To imply that this isn't a crisis of great (and potentially much worse) proportions is to disrespect those who are actually dying or maimed because of WMDs that didn't exist, those who now face increased unrest in their own countries because of their leaders' relationships with the US, those who have seen first-hand the increasingly police-state "us and them" mentality bred here at home by the Homeland Security culture of fear, and those of middle-eastern and south-asian descent living in the US who are now viewed with suspicion and hostility because some Americans believe they're part of the enemy.

And since you're trying to put things in perspective, we didn't go into Iraq to free the Iraqis from an oppressive regime- we went in because the administration convinced the American people that Saddam Hussein was an immediate threat to our well being. If the US government was so fired up about freedom, we would have taken more immediate steps in Cambodia and Rwanda. Atrocious human suffering in impoverished countries with no natural resources? Eh, they'll work it out amongst themselves, right?

Well said.

Things are in a state of unrest right now, but they have been much worse. I wasn't trying to imply that the current events aren't meaningful, just that it is not as dire as people think. Will they get worse? I don't know. I hope not.

Let's just hope they get better, no matter who is in office.

[postfeminist]

my plan in case of a loss is for mr. pf to get into grad school in a different country.

[markalot]

What I said stands, glib or not. The next 4 years are meaningless, the last 4 are already done. A mess is a mess. Sometimes I hope Bush gets re-elected so he is forced to take responsibility for the mess, because I know Kerry will just do a lot of blaming and no real changes.

But ya know what, I have no idea what kind of president Kerry will make so I voted for him because I know what Bush will do and I don't like it.

[ianalex20]

Originally posted by PeterABnny
You'll also be wearing a bull's-eye, you jackass, because come next terrorist attack we'll all be gunning for your worthless ass!



Is that a personal threat???

[akip]

come on you liberals, stay and fight!

my husband's canadian, but no way am i moving up there. the party's down here.

[Digit1001]

If Bush wins I'll begin saving for my child that's on the way's college fund/national debt repayment fund.

That, and I'll work on my Hindi, so when my computer job moves to India, I can support my family on $12 a day while factories with no environmental regulations sprout up all over China so Walmart can bring unemployed Americans DVD players for $15.

Good times. Good times indeed.

[Duemellon]

Originally posted by ianalex20
Is that a personal threat??? from OBL. He specifically stated that,... right? if u believe the audio-tape found that doesn't use AlQ language, doesn't mention specific common threads, & isn't even a consistent accent, is indeed OBL

[PeterABnny]

Originally posted by ianalex20

Is that a personal threat???


Oh, please! Do you actually think that was a personal threat?!

Here, let me break it down for you, and I'll try and use small words so that you'll understand what I'm saying. You, as Bush's biggest, most vocal, most loyal, most unquestioning and most obnoxious supporter of the 97X boards, together with your child-like belief that having Bush in office means (among other things) no further terrorist attacks on America, have become a direct and very visible representation of everything Bush stands for. Still with me or should I back up and explain?

You think Bush is next to God Himself and so much better a President than Washington and Lincoln combined, but when the next attack happens and all that bullshit about America's immunity from attacks is revealed for what it is, people are gonna be angry. And you, Ianalex, because of all your troublemaking and Rush Limbaugh-ian idiocy that you like to spew, are going to become a very convenient target to direct that anger at.

Does that explain things or did I use too many fancy words?

[Chespo]

Originally posted by markalot
Sometimes I hope Bush gets re-elected so he is forced to take responsibility for the mess...I would love nothing more than to see that fucker have to answer for, or try to correct, the things he's done but I'm not holding my breath. You see,

“I’m the commander... I don’t feel like I owe anybody an explanation.”
-Geo. W. Bush

[ianalex20]

Originally posted by PeterABnny



Oh, please! Do you actually think that was a personal threat?!

Here, let me break it down for you, and I'll try and use small words so that you'll understand what I'm saying. You, as Bush's biggest, most vocal, most loyal, most unquestioning and most obnoxious supporter of the 97X boards, together with your child-like belief that having Bush in office means (among other things) no further terrorist attacks on America, have become a direct and very visible representation of everything Bush stands for. Still with me or should I back up and explain?

You think Bush is next to God Himself and so much better a President than Washington and Lincoln combined, but when the next attack happens and all that bullshit about America's immunity from attacks is revealed for what it is, people are gonna be angry. And you, Ianalex, because of all your troublemaking and Rush Limbaugh-ian idiocy that you like to spew, are going to become a very convenient target to direct that anger at.

Does that explain things or did I use too many fancy words?


WOW Paulie, putting a lot of words in my mouth there aren't ya?
Maybe you should stick to drawing little bunny cartoons! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Beware: Attack of the Bunnies!!

[PeterABnny]

Originally posted by ianalex20

WOW Paulie, putting a lot of words in my mouth there aren't ya?
Maybe you should stick to drawing little bunny cartoons! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Beware: Attack of the Bunnies!!


If you're going to make a feeble attempt at mocking me like that, Ianalex, please have the courtesy of mentioning my website by name (www.crittersonline.org)... Can't you do anything right?
:rolleyes:

[Sovrana]

Originally posted by PeterABnny
If Kerry wins, there should be no celebrating,

I think a party to celebrate Kerry's win would be a great idea. I think a local club should hold it and instead of requesting canned goods in place of a cover charge, all party guests would be admitted only if they bring a Bush supporter and treat him or her to the first drink.

First steps to uniting. :)

[jps]

Originally posted by Sovrana


I think a party to celebrate Kerry's win would be a great idea. I think a local club should hold it and instead of requesting canned goods in place of a cover charge, all party guests would be admitted only if they bring a Bush supporter and treat him or her to the first drink.

First steps to uniting. :)

Here here!
And then we get to work.