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AngelV
01 Aug 2004, 12:21 PM
Maybe I should have dug a hole during the Y2K mess...

CNN is now reporting that the terror level will be elevated to orange for Washington, DC. I have a feeling the Iraqi Embassy that re-opened a block from my office will have some serious visible security from now on...

From Washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A31951-2004Aug1?language=printer):


Ridge Considers Raising Threat Level in New York, D.C.

By Jennifer Kerr
Associated Press
Sunday, August 1, 2004; 12:49 PM

The government is considering raising the threat level in Washington and New York City and for financial companies, a Homeland Security Department official said Sunday.

Secretary Tom Ridge planned to discuss the alert status at an afternoon news conference at department headquarters. It was not immediately known what intelligence was leading the government to consider such action.

New York's status has remained at orange, indicating a high risk of terrorist attack, since Sept. 11, 2001, and a change to red would not mean dramatic changes in the city, said the Homeland Security official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Washington and elsewhere are on yellow, or elevated status of risk; that is in the middle of the five-color scale.

New intelligence that the al Qaeda terrorist network plans to attack financial or international institutions in New York has led police to urge extra security precautions at various city buildings.

The warning, announced Saturday night, did not say how the attacks might be carried out or when they would occur.

But ABC News, citing anonymous sources, reported Saturday night that al-Qaida planned to send terrorists across the Mexican border into the United States, and that suicide attacks were being planned in the city, possibly using trucks.

The network said attacks may be planned between now and Election Day. The Republican convention begins in New York on Aug. 30.

A woman with a South African passport was arrested near the U.S.-Mexico border last week when she tried to board a flight to New York with about $7,000 in cash. Officials told The Associated Press they were investigating whether Farida Goolam Mohamed Ahmed, 48, had ties to al-Qaida or other terrorist groups.

According to court documents, Ahmed, 48, provided a South African passport that was missing four pages. ABC reported that she was of Pakistani origin.

According to flight itineraries, Ahmed traveled from Johannesburg through Dubai, United Arab Emirates, to London and on to Mexico City. Authorities said she later told them she was smuggled into the United States from Mexico by crossing the Rio Grande.

Kyle Welch, Ahmed's court-appointed attorney, said his client is not charged with any terrorist activity and does not have a criminal record. She was denied bond on Tuesday.

The Associated Press reported last week that authorities believed crime syndicates operating within the South African government were believed to be selling illegal passports for as little as $77 apiece.

NYPD spokesman Paul Browne told The New York Times for Sunday editions that the warning to bolster security came after talks Friday night and Saturday between Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly and Pasquale Damuro, assistant director in charge of the FBI's New York office.

Police had no additional comment when contacted by The Associated Press on Sunday.

The warning gave tips on general business security measures, such as checking employee identification cards and updating emergency plans.

It also gave some things to look out for, including unanticipated deliveries or maintenance work, people taking unusual video or photographs, and visitors claiming to be lost or looking disoriented. The warning also said bomb threats may be used to evaluate emergency response time.

AngelV
01 Aug 2004, 01:13 PM
More details...

From Washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A31951-2004Aug1?language=printer)


Ridge Raises Terror Threat Level in D.C.
Level for Financial Services Sectors Raised to Orange


Associated Press
Sunday, August 1, 2004; 2:06 PM

WASHINGTON -- The federal government warned Sunday of possible terrorist attacks against "iconic" financial institutions in New York City, Washington and Newark, N.J., saying a confluence of intelligence over the weekend pointed to a car or truck bomb.


Specifically, the government named these buildings as potential targets:

-- The Citicorp building and the New York Stock Exchange in New York City.

-- The International Monetary Fund and the World Bank buildings in Washington.

-- The Prudential building in Newark.

"The preferred means of attack would be car or truck bombs," Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said in a briefing with journalists. That would be a primary means of attack."

The government said the new intelligence indicated the meticulous planning of al-Qaida.

Ridge said the government's threat level for financial institutions would be raised to orange, or high alert, but would remain at yellow, or elevated, elsewhere.

Ridge said it would be up to New York City officials to decide whether to move to the highest level, red. The city has remained on orange since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

The secretary said the government took the unprecedented step of naming specific buildings because of the level of specificity of the intelligence. "This is not the usual chatter. This is multiple sources that involve extraordinary detail," Ridge said.

Ridge acknowledged that protecting these buildings, located in heavily populated areas, would require additional security measures, especially because thousands of cars and trucks travel through these cities daily.

"Car and truck bombs are one of the most difficult tasks we have in the war on terror," Ridge said.

A White House spokeswoman, Erin Healy, said the intelligence on the threat is "very new, coming in during the last 72 hours."

She said President Bush was kept updated on the reported and was briefing about the matter over the past three days.

"The president made the final decision today agreeing with the recommendation of Secretary Ridge to go ahead and raise the threat level in these select areas," Healy said.

markalot
01 Aug 2004, 04:32 PM
Vote for Bush to stay safe! :rolleyes:

Duemellon
01 Aug 2004, 05:46 PM
Making truck bombs takes years of preparation.

Setting them off takes a few months!

It's so good to kno that in the last few yrs we'v only had 3-4 major threats b/c puttin together a terrorist plot takes so much time & energy.

Just as Malvo.

r444s
01 Aug 2004, 07:53 PM
cnn headline news reports Kerry ahead of Bush by 3% and Ridge raises threat level as Kerry's first full week of campaigning is about to begin. Hello. Even though I live in NYC and work near Newark I can't help being cynical. (but as I write I'm loading up on vodka)

onest2.0
01 Aug 2004, 07:57 PM
I'm not sure about Prudential, but Citigroup seems like it would be a legitimate target for Muslim extremists considering the Saudi's own a lrge stake in it.

AngelV
02 Aug 2004, 05:36 AM
Originally posted by r444s
Even though I live in NYC and work near Newark I can't help being cynical. (but as I write I'm loading up on vodka)

Exactly! On the outside I'm going, "Pfft...how convenient." But internally, I'm thinking, "If I bring a pair of sneakers to work, I can walk up 16th Street to get out of the city..."

postfeminist
02 Aug 2004, 06:26 AM
this shit is so scary because the seed is planted in my head, and now i feel like i'm just waiting for something bad to happen. all of you who live in DC and NYC, i'm sending you lots of good thoughts and i hope you stay safe!!!

i think that IMF & World Bank would be what i would blow up if i were going to do it. but i'd make sure there was no one inside. I would never blow up a building though. :) I promise.

mistergugi
02 Aug 2004, 09:36 AM
okay, so what does raising the terror-level thread ACTUALLY do? It means the security folks for those areas have to work harder and be more thorough, right? But does it do anything else? I mean, how much does this actually effect me? As far as I know, life continues on as it always seems to, and there's nothing that I have to deal with directly that stems from these alerts. Granted, I'm not like Angel where my office is near a target, so I'm lucky, but I'm wondering how much actually changes based on these alerts?

AngelV
02 Aug 2004, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by mistergugi
okay, so what does raising the terror-level thread ACTUALLY do? It means the security folks for those areas have to work harder and be more thorough, right? But does it do anything else? I mean, how much does this actually effect me?


You probably won't see many of the changes in security because most of it isn't visible for a number of reasons. Though some things will be more obvious...police presence at Metro stations, patrols of government buildings, etc.

From the Dept. of Homeland Security website (http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/display?theme=29):


4. High Condition (Orange). A High Condition is declared when there is a high risk of terrorist attacks. In addition to the Protective Measures taken in the previous Threat Conditions, Federal departments and agencies should consider the following general measures in addition to the agency-specific Protective Measures that they will develop and implement:


Coordinating necessary security efforts with Federal, State, and local law enforcement agencies or any National Guard or other appropriate armed forces organizations;
Taking additional precautions at public events and possibly considering alternative venues or even cancellation;
Preparing to execute contingency procedures, such as moving to an alternate site or dispersing their workforce; and
Restricting threatened facility access to essential personnel only.



5. Severe Condition (Red). A Severe Condition reflects a severe risk of terrorist attacks. Under most circumstances, the Protective Measures for a Severe Condition are not intended to be sustained for substantial periods of time. In addition to the Protective Measures in the previous Threat Conditions, Federal departments and agencies also should consider the following general measures in addition to the agency-specific Protective Measures that they will develop and implement:


Increasing or redirecting personnel to address critical emergency needs;
Assigning emergency response personnel and pre-positioning and mobilizing specially trained teams or resources;
Monitoring, redirecting, or constraining transportation systems; and
Closing public and government facilities.

monkey neck
02 Aug 2004, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by sueque222
sure you wouldn't! ;)

no one can convince me that this ain't right wing conspiracy in action. :rolleyes:

Just like Sept 11th, right?:rolleyes:

postfeminist
02 Aug 2004, 10:22 AM
shiiiiiiiiiiiit.

i can believe in a conspiracy to scare us, but not the kind that would kill almost 3000 of our own innocent citizens.

Necromancer
02 Aug 2004, 10:25 AM
This just in!

All of Scotland is under code plaid!

FitterHappier
02 Aug 2004, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by mistergugi
okay, so what does raising the terror-level thread ACTUALLY do?

Costs the cities $$$.
The specific nature of this recent threat is pretty freakin' scary. I can't imagine all the shit that would be running through my head if I was an employee at one of those places. Chalk up another plus for telecommuting.

Duemellon
02 Aug 2004, 05:22 PM
If I was the leader of a terrorist organization & had lots of $, I'd simply put a bounty on a target saying I'd give $25,000,000 to whoever blows it down but only $5,000,000 to anyone who kills X amount of ppl w/o destroying the building.

That simple.

let them do the rest.

Why do we act as if heavy gaurd & a strong mil will stop 1 creativ person with $200.00 in his pocket? Absolutely stupid & misguided.

Terrorism is like water, the tighter u squeeze it the more u lose control of it going thru the cracks.