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markalot
18 Jun 2004, 08:55 AM
I'm reading more and more that people tend to vote from their wallets instead of concentrating on what many of us would consider more important issues.

This has to scare the hell out of Kerry. Bush has some REAL problems, but based on past elections if the economy turns good Bush is likely to win.

Sad, isn't it?

Wolverine
18 Jun 2004, 09:14 AM
Sad, but per usual.

If Bush wins, democrats aren't happy.

If Kerry wins, repbulicans aren't happy.

Reality: same old, same old, nothing is corrected.

The looming problems continue to escalate with no one talking even around the problems, let alone :gasp: propose solutions...

AngelV
18 Jun 2004, 09:16 AM
Well, when you get down to it, most people want to keep more of their money to use towards buying a home, getting their kids the stuff they need, taking a vacation, etc. I think a good majority of Americans do care about the "more important issues," but it's hard to think about them when you can't pay your bills on time.

DaysWithoutEnd
18 Jun 2004, 10:44 AM
The people at the bottom should vote for the person who is most likely to help them - Kerry.

The people at the top should vote for the person who is most concerned about helping others - Kerry.

The people in the middle should realise they're not far from the bottom and vote for Kerry.

That $300 tax savings doesn't mean much in the long run if you're unemployed or underemployed.

markalot
18 Jun 2004, 02:49 PM
Looks to me like Bush has turned the economy around.

I mean, if we blame him for the recession we have to credit him for the turn around, right?

AngelV
18 Jun 2004, 02:52 PM
It's turned around?

Necromancer
18 Jun 2004, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by Wolverine
Sad, but per usual.

If Bush wins, democrats aren't happy.

If Kerry wins, repbulicans aren't happy.

Reality: same old, same old, nothing is corrected.

The looming problems continue to escalate with no one talking even around the problems, let alone :gasp: propose solutions...

The solution always is "Vote our party into power!"

classicgrrl
18 Jun 2004, 09:35 PM
from my vantage point I don't see where the ecomony has turned around. I think we will see a little reprieve here in a bit but I do think it is being far over-hyped.

I see a MAJOR income disparity issue with regards to these two particular candidates. Bush just raised some 13 million smackers at the home of good ole Carl Lindner...but I don't see Georgie vying too much for the vote of the everday Joe.

This is what is turning OH into a swing state. If everyday service sector citizens get out and vote I do not believe King George will be reelected.

The the electorial college isn't dumb enough to go against the popular vote TWICE in a row given the last ickiness. At least lets hope not.

PS: Although Kerry has raised record numbers using the left leaning elite....I do think he has a better connection with the lower classes than Bushy Baby.
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*looks in wallet*
.17 - guess I won't be voting today.
:mad:

markalot
18 Jun 2004, 10:38 PM
from my vantage point I don't see where the ecomony has turned around. I think we will see a little reprieve here in a bit but I do think it is being far over-hyped.

I'm not arguing if it has turned around or not, I'm just saying that IF the economy is in good shape in November then odds are Bush will win.

Wolverine
18 Jun 2004, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by markalot


I'm not arguing if it has turned around or not, I'm just saying that IF the economy is in good shape in November then odds are Bush will win.

I agree this will be the outcome with your scenario.

spawnie
18 Jun 2004, 10:54 PM
As George Washington said, avoid party politics....but...I think our best bet would be RALPH NADER. yay;)

tobedawg
19 Jun 2004, 08:04 AM
As George Washington said, avoid party politics....but...I think our best bet would be RALPH NADER. yay

Ralph Nader! I love the man. I'm glad he's running, but in all reality do you actually think that he will ever be Elected President?

The man has spent his entire life crusading against Corporations, and unfortunately, Corporations are the ones calling the shots in this country. Many Americans associate the American dream with making more money $$$.

If Nader ever did make it into being a serious candidate, he would be ultimately discredited by BOTH political parties, and the Corporations that control them.

Some think that if we get another 4 years of Bush, that a "Revolution" will happen because of how "bad" it will get. The only "Revolution" you will likely see is a Consumer Spending Revolution where people head to the malls and Buy, Buy, Buy or a new "Revolution" of Reality TV.. IF Bush Wins in 2004, it will be obvious just how dumbed-down the American public is!

postfeminist
19 Jun 2004, 05:23 PM
Dayswithoutend wrote:
The people at the bottom should vote for the personwho is most likely to help them - Kerry. The people at the top should vote for the person who is most concerned about helping others - Kerry. The people in the middle should realise they're not far from the bottom and vote for Kerry. hat $300 tax savings doesn't mean much in the long run if you're unemployed or underemployed.


dayswithoutend, i think i love you.

unfortunately, i am married.

maybe you are too.

perhaps you could run for office, then i could vote for you and my love wouldn't be forbidden.